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Simchat Torah, was that addressed at me? (Sorry I was dozing! :))
I quoted Exodus to show why we celebrate Passover today.
And I was wondering if there is basis in the NT for a weekly "communion" or could it be monthly, yearly, or even just once, upon conversion? Just curious...
 
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Mordechai18 said:
Simchat Torah, was that addressed at me? (Sorry I was dozing! :))
I quoted Exodus to show why we celebrate Passover today.
And I was wondering if there is basis in the NT for a weekly "communion" or could it be monthly, yearly, or even just once, upon conversion? Just curious...
From the earliest Church writings we find that they celebrated Communion every time they met. In the Catholic Church there is Communion every day of the week, of the year, but most people only attend on Sundays.
 
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Henaynei said:
With the interest you have shown and the openmindedness that is apparent, I urge you to seek our a Messianic congregation in your area and go to a Passover Seder.
Most MJ congregations have at least one community seder, on one of the first two nights of Passover. Many also to show-n-tell seders at some of the local churches in many areas and you might find those more assessable as a first time Seder-goer :) Check around :) You will truly enjoy it I think!
Something I'd like to see. Thank you.
 
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Shalom Morry,

And I was wondering if there is basis in the NT for a weekly "communion" or could it be monthly, yearly, or even just once, upon conversion? Just curious...


There is no basis for communion. It comes from a christian misunderstanding of Passover.
 
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Breanainn said:
For those that believe Messianic Jews must follow Mosaic law, could you provide scriptural support as to why you believe this?

I would think, instead, that the onus is on those who believe that the Mosaic Law is no longer binding to prove their case.
After all, that is the viewpoint that is changing things from how they had been.
 
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Breanainn said:
It's stated in the NT writings, which I believe Messianic Jews hold as truth.
That's just a matter of interpretation. We could probably go round and round with proof texts, but it really wouldn't prove anything. ;) Truthfully, this really isn't something that could be summed up in one reply. The best I could do, for the sake of brevity, is to offer up Matthew 5: 17-19. Even then, I'm sure there would be an argument over how we're defining "fulfilled."

But maybe it would be better if I asked elsewhere if that's the kind answer I'm going to receive...
To be honest, I don't think Morry meant you any disrespect. He was just stating an opinion. :)
 
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justinhulsey said:
To be honest, I don't think Morry meant you any disrespect. He was just stating an opinion. :)

Oh, I know. :)

I just meant that if when I asked a question for the purpose of trying to understand something about Messianic Judaism I am answered with a request to prove something, there may be better places to seek knowledge.
 
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justinhulsey said:
The best I could do, for the sake of brevity, is to offer up Matthew 5: 17-19. Even then, I'm sure there would be an argument over how we're defining "fulfilled."
Yeah, some say "fulfill" means "ended" or "completed".

But "fulfill" in Matthew 5.17 is being contrasted with the word "destroy" (abolish).

The opposite of "destroy" is to "establish" or "set right".

In context, Yeshua is saying even the lightest commandments are as important as the heavy commandments (not one jot and tittle will pass away). For example "Do not bear hatred in your heart" is as important as "Do not murder". Yeshua certainly did not come to "end" or do away with the command "do not murder"...well the text very plainly states that neither is he doing away with the lightest commandments either. To suggest that Yeshua is saying we can get off the hook with the lighter commandments is to call Yeshua "the least in the Kingdom of Heaven"! For "whoever annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven"!! (next verse).
 
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Breanainn said:
It's stated in the NT writings, which I believe Messianic Jews hold as truth.

But maybe it would be better if I asked elsewhere if that's the kind answer I'm going to receive...

No offense was intended.
As a Jew, I am used to being asked to prove that things didn't change form how they were in Torah.
In such a discussion, the onus is rather on the one who asserts that things did change to prove their case.
But I understand how my answer was unsatisfactory to you, and apologize for any perceived slight. I should instead have kept silent.
 
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