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Medieval Indicts

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ZooMom

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Sadistic? That's a bit harsh, don't you think? Certainly, it was hard on the people, but that was the fastest way to bring a recalcitrant ruler to heel. Not to put too fine a point on it. If they just issued an excommunication for the king, he could pretty much ignore it and keep on doing whatever it was that was getting him in trouble. But if his people were upset and angry, and you can bet they were since it was their king's fault that they were being made to suffer, then he would have to seriously rethink what he was doing or the people could well decide that they needed a new king.

Please keep in mind that an interdict was not something that was used lightly or frivolously, but only as a last ditch effort to get a ruler to straighten up.
 
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4th April 2003 at 10:26 PM ZooMom said this in Post #4

Sadistic? That's a bit harsh, don't you think? Certainly, it was hard on the people, but that was the fastest way to bring a recalcitrant ruler to heel. Not to put too fine a point on it. If they just issued an excommunication for the king, he could pretty much ignore it and keep on doing whatever it was that was getting him in trouble. But if his people were upset and angry, and you can bet they were since it was their king's fault that they were being made to suffer, then he would have to seriously rethink what he was doing or the people could well decide that they needed a new king.

Please keep in mind that an interdict was not something that was used lightly or frivolously, but only as a last ditch effort to get a ruler to straighten up.

I'd say that sadistic is a pretty good word. I mean, what would you call cutting off an entire nation's road to salvation? Punish the people for the actions of a single man? I'll bet John Paul would be against that.
 
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"Whereas excommunication is exclusively a censure, intended to lead a guilty person back to repentance, an interdict, like suspension, may be imposed either as a censure or as a vindictive punishment."

Part of the material on the link that isshinwhat gave us.

I tend to agree the punishment was very vindictive.
 
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5th April 2003 at 12:11 AM humblejoe said this in Post #6

Punish the people for the actions of a single man?


Well, the last time it was used, in 1909 I believe, the town attacked a Bishop. Typically, attacking a Bishop is immediate excommunication. Ergo, placing an indict on the town for ~15 days, was a less severe punishment.

By Stormy:
I tend to agree the punishment was very vindictive.

Yah well, you know... us Catholics can be real a**holes. Oh wait, maybe that's just me.
 
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5th April 2003 at 07:32 PM Stormy said this in Post #10

Just curious... Why would a town attack a Bishop?

The Bishop had lived in that particular town but was planning to move to the nearby town of Rovigo. Guess the people didn't want him to leave.
 
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Yesterday at 09:37 PM sklippstein said this in Post #12

NYJ.....why would they attack him for wanting to leave?


Well, since I've never lived in the town in question and I wasn't alive in 1909 either, how the heck am I supposed to know?
 
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