medical students boycotting lectures on evolution

[CabVet]

Matthew 26:39
And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Matthew 26:42
He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

Psalm 62:11
God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that powerhttp://www.christianforums.com/#fn-descriptionAnchor-a belongeth unto God.

And how exactly does that translate into ""you can move a mountain if God allows"? Please, read Metal Minister's post and learn something today.

 

[Metal Minister]

All of Gods own have the faith of God.

No, we don't. We have our own faith in God, and His love but His will is His own. We are fallen, sinful creatures, even after our salvation. God's will moves in our lives, no doubt. It changes us and molds us to His will and our future benefit, but outside of heaven we will not have perfect faith.

 

[CabVet]

Not sure why? It was an easy question... *shrug*

Because as we can see here, some think they have the same faith as God:

All of Gods own have the faith of God.

Many also think what they speak comes directly from God and is "the truth".

 

[someguy14]

No, we don't. We have our own faith in God, and His love but His will is His own. We are fallen, sinful creatures, even after our salvation. God's will moves in our lives, no doubt. It changes us and molds us to His will and our future benefit, but outside of heaven we will not have perfect faith.

"be ye therefore perfect as your Father which is in heaven is perfect". God is greater.

 

[CabVet]

No, we don't. We have our own faith in God, and His love but His will is His own. We are fallen, sinful creatures, even after our salvation. God's will moves in our lives, no doubt. It changes us and molds us to His will and our future benefit, but outside of heaven we will not have perfect faith.

Exactly. That is what I understand from the Bible (even though I don't exactly believe it )

 

[Metal Minister]

Because as we can see here, some think they have the same faith as God:

Many also think what they speak comes directly from God and is "the truth".

Well like I was trying to tell him, we are human, and sinful, even after our salvation. Forgiveness is an ongoing process. God's perfection and our sin do not mesh. We need forgiveness to reconcile this when we die. If not, and if as soon as we accepted Jesus as our saviour, we'd never sin again, and well, that's just not the case...

 

[someguy14]

Because as we can see here, some think they have the same faith as God:

God is all faith. God is all goodness.

Many also think what they speak comes directly from God and is "the truth".

Truth is truth. All that are Gods own are of the truth. God is truth itself.

 

[CabVet]

"be ye therefore perfect as your Father which is in heaven is perfect". God is greater.

Even I know that this is Jesus telling us how we should be, not how we are.

 

[someguy14]

Well like I was trying to tell him, we are human, and sinful, even after our salvation. Forgiveness is an ongoing process. God's perfection and our sin do not mesh. We need forgiveness to reconcile this when we die. If not, and if as soon as we accepted Jesus as our saviour, we'd never sin again, and well, that's just not the case...

God is the only perfection. Deny thyself. God is all. Who is fail, all that isn't God. God is perfection itself.

 

[Metal Minister]

"be ye therefore perfect as your Father which is in heaven is perfect". God is greater.

Oy... Context my friend, context. That verse is in reference to forgiveness of those who have done us wrong. Yes, God is greater, God is the definition of perfection, but we are not, and have not been since the fall. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, just giving you the facts.

 

[someguy14]

Even I know that this is Jesus telling us how we should be, not how we are.

Deny thyself. God is THE only good.

 

[CabVet]

God is all faith. God is all goodness.

According to the Bible, God is, you are not.

Truth is truth. All that are Gods own are of the truth. God is truth itself.

But that of course only applies to your truth, right?

 

[CabVet]

Deny thyself. God is THE only good.

So, are you really saying that is not Jesus teaching us how we should be?

 

[Metal Minister]

God is the only perfection. Deny thyself. God is all. Who is fail, all that isn't God. God is perfection itself.

Yes, God is perfection (as I've already stated) but WE are NOT God! We are His fallen creation!

 

[Metal Minister]

Deny thyself. God is THE only good.

Listen my friend, no one here is denying that God is goodness itself, or that He is perfection (well CabVet may disagree, but that's for another time ) what we're telling you is WE are not goodness itself, or perfection. WE are FALLEN. Otherwise, we would've had no need for Jesus sacrifice.

 

[someguy14]

No, we don't. We have our own faith in God, and His love but His will is His own. We are fallen, sinful creatures, even after our salvation. God's will moves in our lives, no doubt. It changes us and molds us to His will and our future benefit, but outside of heaven we will not have perfect faith.

All mankind is has failed. God alone is the perfect. Thank you for responding. God alone is perfection. Deny thyself and take up thy cross. It is Him alone that is any good that is good. Self has died on the cross. God is eternal.

 

[Metal Minister]

All mankind is has failed. God alone is the perfect. Thank you for responding. God alone is perfection. Deny thyself and take up thy cross. It is Him alone that is any good that is good. Self has died on the cross. God is eternal.

I don't disagree with a single word you posted, but WE are not perfect, until after the judgement, and we have reached heaven.

 

[someguy14]

Listen my friend, no one here is denying that God is goodness itself, or that He is perfection (well CabVet may disagree, but that's for another time ) what we're telling you is WE are not goodness itself, or perfection. WE are FALLEN. Otherwise, we would've had no need for Jesus sacrifice.

I understand your direction. We who...
Only God is worthy glory.

 

[Metal Minister]

I understand your direction. We who...
Only God is worthy glory.

We as in humans.

 

[CabVet]

All mankind is has failed. God alone is the perfect. Thank you for responding. God alone is perfection. Deny thyself and take up thy cross. It is Him alone that is any good that is good. Self has died on the cross. God is eternal.

Does that mean you finally admit nobody has enough faith to move a mountain?