Media Bias

[Spawn]

It continues to amaze me that liberals are so up in arms about a single station (Fox News) slanting to the right when pretty much every other station slants to the left. Why are they so threatened by one station? Could it be that they don't like the light shining in their closets?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to rua2j33 again.

 

[fyodoros]

It continues to amaze me that liberals are so up in arms about a single station (Fox News) slanting to the right when pretty much every other station slants to the left. Why are they so threatened by one station? Could it be that they don't like the light shining in their closets?

can you provide any proof of this beyond your own observations? no other stations slant to the left.

 

[ade32]

It continues to amaze me that liberals are so up in arms about a single station (Fox News) slanting to the right when pretty much every other station slants to the left. Why are they so threatened by one station? Could it be that they don't like the light shining in their closets?

Rubbish. All the mainstream stations have overcompensated for their alleged 'liberal bias'. Now they're afraid to criticize anything this government does, and if they report on anything that looks bad for the government (case in point the Guatanamo mistakes) then its an 'anti-American conspiracy by the liberal media to make the goverment look bad'.

I mean, far be it from the media to actually report on the election problems in Ohio or the Downing Street memos or anything else controversial because they'd make the administration look bad. Lets just report on what Howard Dean said instead.

Maybe we should consider the fact that they could actually be bad?

 

[Fa'Head]

It continues to amaze me that liberals are so up in arms about a single station (Fox News) slanting to the right when pretty much every other station slants to the left. Why are they so threatened by one station? Could it be that they don't like the light shining in their closets?

In case you haven't noticed EACH group, consers & libs, get so up in arms about everything the other group does. There is no chance of working together to improve this country, there is only "us vs them" to the point that we must bash everything they say, discredit everything they do, try our best to keep them from getting any kind of upperhand, even if what they do might be of some benefit to this society.

As a guy who thinks both parties stink, I fuss about Fox because of their "Fair and Balanced" claim. If you're gonna make bold statements like that when it's obviously not true then you're going to get flak.

 

[Scribbler]

It continues to amaze me that liberals are so up in arms about a single station (Fox News) slanting to the right when pretty much every other station slants to the left. Why are they so threatened by one station? Could it be that they don't like the light shining in their closets?

Amen. Even the NY Times hasn't endorsed a Republican Candidate (as if endorsing a candidate is the media's responsibility, anyways...) since Ike, 50+ years ago. They supported Nixon over McGovern, even Mondale over Reagan, yet some still deny any bias. Most of us are more honest about it. Most of the media slants left. That slanting was responsible for the success of talk Radio and Fox. Does Fox slant right? Sure, but certainly less than CBS slants left. Bashing Fox as the only source of Bias is ridiculous and dishonest as saying CBS is the only source. When you want fast-breaking news, or an honest look at the Government or the UN, Fox is great. My major complaint with them is in-between those stories, they fill up the time with filler about Michael Jackson or Scott Petersen, or some other inane story I could care less about. Other, more liberal networks find a story about Abu Gharib and drive it into the ground, as if a half dozen enlisted yahoos is a fair representation of the military or even "Bush's Government". Stories on the UN they avoid like the plague. Positive stories about the rebuilding of Iraq are rare.
Everyone remembers the human interest story of the 12-year-old boy who lost his arms in an AMERICAN ATTACK, but where were the stories of the children Saddam killed, the women his son's raped, people he tortured. We get a dry news story on that, rarely a human interest story.


Anyone who thinks there's no bias in the media is either dishonest or seriously deludign themselves. Just do what I do, watch different sources (CNN, Fox, ABC, Drudge,Time & Newsweek in my case) and make up your own mind.

 

[Scribbler]

can you provide any proof of this beyond your own observations? no other stations slant to the left.

Case in point.




Where's Bernard Goldberg when you need him?
Not at CBS anymore, that's for sure.

 

[stubeeef]

I believe in general the news is biased to the left. There are of course some biased to the right. Now be sure you are talking news and not op'eds. I usually scan Fox (generally to the right), CNN & MSNBC (generally left).
For my op'ed news I like Scarbourgh Country and Hardball. Hannity&Combs, Boortz, and Limbaugh do little to nothing for me. I do like some Brit Hume, and Neil Cavuto to balance out some of the messages I get on CNN (Can't stand Paula Zahn or the worst loud mouth on the planet carville).

 

[arnegrim]

Rubbish. All the mainstream stations have overcompensated for their alleged 'liberal bias'. Now they're afraid to criticize anything this government does, and if they report on anything that looks bad for the government (case in point the Guatanamo mistakes) then its an 'anti-American conspiracy by the liberal media to make the goverment look bad'.

I mean, far be it from the media to actually report on the election problems in Ohio or the Downing Street memos or anything else controversial because they'd make the administration look bad. Lets just report on what Howard Dean said instead.

Maybe we should consider the fact that they could actually be bad?

Really? What is the mainstream medias stance on Social Security? Abu Ghraib? Gitmo? ANWAR? Patriot Act?

 

[Doctrine1st]

It continues to amaze me that liberals are so up in arms about a single station (Fox News) slanting to the right when pretty much every other station slants to the left. Why are they so threatened by one station? Could it be that they don't like the light shining in their closets?

All American News pretty much sucks and is too corporatized to be effective. I mean we have advertisers of news with contract fine print that pretty much says any negative news about their companies is subject to voiding the contract. So the ideal even of a liberal media is just plain looney.

 

[Doctrine1st]

Can I ask a question?

I personally don't watch the news on TV, so do people really still get their news from TV?

There is no real depth there to cover any kind of story. Even with an hour talking head pundit show, less commericals, we are talking about 35 minutes of shouting disinformation akin to the WWF, which nine times out of ten will only leave their audience more ill-informed or dangerous then before they tuned in.

 

[arnegrim]

Can I ask a question?

I personally don't watch the news on TV, so do people really still get their news from TV?

There is no real depth there to cover any kind of story. Even with an hour talking head pundit show, less commericals, we are talking about 35 minutes of shouting disinformation akin to the WWF, which nine times out of ten will only leave their audience more ill-informed or dangerous then before they tuned in.

That's almost exactly the point.

Those 35 minutes of 'disinformation' lean to the liberal side of the spectrum.

 

[Doctrine1st]

That's almost exactly the point.

Those 35 minutes of 'disinformation' lean to the liberal side of the spectrum.

LOL, there is no liberal media.

That is a political term used for politcal means. Kind of like "activist judges" " "mainstream" and "the rule of law."

There is a lack of curiosity, but then, that's tied in corporatization, the reporters freedom, and the "snuffing room."

 

[fyodoros]

Really? What is the mainstream medias stance on Social Security? Abu Ghraib? Gitmo? ANWAR? Patriot Act?

you're gonna have to find better examples than this. these are too obvious.

Case in point.
Where's Bernard Goldberg when you need him?

i'm gonna read his book and get back to the boards. i read an interview he did with john hawkings, and it seems like something i may benefit from. will report back.

 

[Scribbler]

LOL, there is no liberal media.

Uhhh, actually, Doctrine1st, some of them have even admitted it...
http://www.timeswatch.org/articles/2004/0726.asp
http://www.worldthreats.com/general_information/MSN%20Admits%20Media%20Bias.htm
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/brentbozell/bb20031022.shtml
http://www.mrc.org/realitycheck/2001/20010618.asp
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/TheNote/TheNote_Feb1004.html
http://www.danrathermustgo.com/html/Goldberg.html
http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/1996/cyb19960523.asp#1
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/dailytimes/2003/08/15/news/opinion/6530182.htm

LOL

 

[Doctrine1st]

Uhhh, actually, Doctrine1st, some of them have even admitted it...
http://www.timeswatch.org/articles/2004/0726.asp
http://www.worldthreats.com/general_information/MSN%20Admits%20Media%20Bias.htm
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/brentbozell/bb20031022.shtml
http://www.mrc.org/realitycheck/2001/20010618.asp
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/TheNote/TheNote_Feb1004.html
http://www.danrathermustgo.com/html/Goldberg.html
http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/1996/cyb19960523.asp#1
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/dailytimes/2003/08/15/news/opinion/6530182.htm

LOL

Really depends on what you mean by liberal. As quoted by Walter Cronkite from one of your links, if you mean ""progressive," "broad-minded," "unprejudiced," "beneficent" one can only dream.

Now if what they mean is they are pushing of focusing on liberal issues, I would like to know what they are cause frankly I have been highly dissappointed with our US media coverage and what I see as a compliance with the current admin to continuely give them a kitchen pass.

I guess maybe my expectations of what a liberal media would look like are way to high.

 

[WarSong]

Really depends on what you mean by liberal. As quoted by Walter Cronkite from one of your links, if you mean ""progressive," "broad-minded," "unprejudiced," "beneficent" one can only dream.

Now if what they mean is they are pushing of focusing on liberal issues, I would like to know what they are cause frankly I have been highly dissappointed with our US media coverage and what I see as a compliance with the current admin to continuely give them a kitchen pass.

I guess maybe my expectations of what a liberal media would look like are way to high.

Maybe not so much the advancement of Liberal issues as the downplay or criticism of Conservative ones.

 

[rua2j33]

What bothers me is the unfair reporting by the news. What I mean is this. For example, when reporting on abortion, the media sets it up to make people think that abortion is good. Simply using certain words does that. They use "Pro-choice" and "Anti-abortion". Instinct makes us want to be on the "Pro" side. After all, everyone wants to be a winner. If news is to be unbiased, then they need to report on a level playing field using the same adjectives such as "Pro-Life" and "Pro-Death" or "Anti-life" and "Anti-Death". Then the people will decide where the stand.

 

[ade32]

LOL, there is no liberal media.

That is a political term used for politcal means.

Exactly. Its a means to dismissing (by the administration) anything bad that happens. If there is a 'liberal media' then anything thats bad must be some kind of 'liberal conspiracy'.

 

[marshlewis]

From the perspective of one living outside of the USA let me say, ALL your mainstream media is slanted to the right. ALL of it.
Whenever I read Americans argue about a Libral media bias its both very funny and really frightning at the same time.

 

[USAPOWER!]

I am so sick and tired of hearing these liberal, godless, Hollywood medias. The only news source that isn't drastically biased is Fox News...