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Hi everyone!

I am kind of new to this forum, and have just come back from a long absence from CF, so I guess I am kind of new again.

Anyway, I would like to pose a question to all of the people here who have also been diagnosed with manic-depression/bipolar disorder - especially of the severe type:

Do you believe that you could ever reach a point where you could function on a somewhat normal basis without medication (I say somewhat being that I am a fairly realistic and reasonable person - I think - and I know that things will never be as "normal" as we expect them to be)? If you have ever been able to do this, what techniques/methods of coping have you used?

I recently ceased medication and treatment because of financial issues, because quite honestly I don't entirely trust the psychiatric and pharmacutical industries, and more than that because I really hate the drugged-up, numbed-up feeling that consumes me whenever I am on medication.

In the past I have had numerous and severe episodes of depression that spiral into mixed-state psyhosis, but it hasn't yet gone that far since I stopped the medication - 2 months ago - although honestly I do have regular episodes of semi-severe depression about three or four times a week (that sounds like a lot, but it is offset by a three or four days of manic states in between). With the help of my husband, I have been becoming increasingly aware of my behavior when I am in these states, and have been able to apply techniques from Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (for Borderline Personality Disorder, which I am diagnosed with as well) and have found them tremendously helpful, especially when I am depressed - which is really when I need them the most.

Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-meds or anti-psychiatrists (I am actually working towards a degree in psychology and would like to someday go in to private practice to counsel those with severe mood disorders and personality disorders), only I feel that this may be the best thing I could do for myself right now - I want to be able to function and survive without medication - and not only that, I want to be able to channel these feelings and moods that I have into creative projects (I like to paint and draw, sing and play the guitar, write poetry and lyrics, etc).

I apologize for the long post - feeling increasingly manic, or at least hypo-manic, at the moment!

I would love to hear what you all think about all of this, especially if you would like to answer the questions I have presented, and I would appreciate any other advice or comments you have!

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:hug: bless your heart. we all seem to get in a zone where we think we can go off meds. we think or it's a miracle, but it's just another cycle. YOU MUST be declared healled by your doctor and be given instruction on your meds, diet, etc. never be influenced or tempted to another answer. but on the softer side of this illness, or these illnesses; we can learn to manage and find joy and contentment with whatever diagnosis we have... surround yourself with the resources that build you up.
do you have a doctor or counselor to ask for help with the resources available for you? pm staff if you need resource help. :hug: and welcome to the family!!! :clap:
you'll find alot of lovely support here! :) ~ love dee
 
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:hug: bless your heart. we all seem to get in a zone where we think we can go off meds. we think or it's a miracle, but it's just another cycle. YOU MUST be declared healled by your doctor and be given instruction on your meds, diet, etc. never be influenced or tempted to another answer. but on the softer side of this illness, or these illnesses; we can learn to manage and find joy and contentment with whatever diagnosis we have... surround yourself with the resources that build you up.
do you have a doctor or counselor to ask for help with the resources available for you? pm staff if you need resource help. :hug: and welcome to the family!!!
you'll find alot of lovely support here! :) ~ love dee

Thank you for the welcome and input!

I don't think at all that a person can live med free because of some miraculous healing. It is not that at all. Nor am I suggesting that anyone should do this. But I do know for a fact that I have gone years at different times without the aid of medication, and even though it was terribly difficult, I think that with the right resources, support, and skills a person can reach the point where they can survive without medication... Maybe not everyone; I know that for some these things are harder than for others (not that it makes them weak or inferior in any way), but I believe it can be done...

I have been in and out of therapy all of my life, and I know that nothing has done more for me than the support of those who love me and learning how to take charge of my life and responsibility for my emotions.

As a person who has experienced quite a lot in the way of mental illness, and also learned a lot in my studies of psychology, I feel that I understand and know myself and my needs a lot better than some psychiatrist who has only met with me four or five times. That is just coming from my own personal experience.

I was just wondering what others thought about this... I do agree that one can find contentment and enjoyment in living with whatever mental illness one may have. This is a part of what I was meaning to say... Just because a person has a mental illness does not mean that they cannot consider all options (although I think there are a lot of good psychiatrists out there, a person should understand that the nature of their profession only allows them to offer you options that benefit them - their salaries and their standing with the pharmacutical companies) learn how to take control of their lives and learn how to live a good productive life without meds.

Again, maybe this doesnt apply to everyone. I was just asking for opinions on this.

P.s. i took DBT too. :) practice practice practice! lol...
visit our managing skills thread:
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Thanks! I will check that out!

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My meds help me so much I am terrified to think what would happen if I came off them. I don't believe meds alone is the answer though. I believe we must implement lifestyle changes as well as have a med regiment that works well.
 
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My meds help me so much I am terrified to think what would happen if I came off them. I don't believe meds alone is the answer though. I believe we must implement lifestyle changes as well as have a med regiment that works well.

I agree. I have had times where I probably wouldn't have survived without the medication, and maybe I will have to take them again in the future (I hope I can do better without them this time, now that my family understands more and I know more about my condition - I have come across so many helpful resources since the last time I completely lost control), who knows. Only God. I think the thing with me is that I have so many adverse and unwanted side affects, I would rather like to try my options and push myself to the limit (maybe that isn't a good thing).

Anyway, I think it's good that you can recognize that you need them. One of the best things you can do for yourself is to be self-aware and understand your condition; Know what is going on with you because only you can know what is going to work and what isn't.

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I had normal state for around 2 years and above without medication but when the pressures come, I need to take back on medication again...

Yes, medication by no means to cure us, but at least it could help us when needed.

Most of the time, we, bipolar are the one who ought to learn on controlling our own mood swing in order to prevent it from relapse either manic, hypomanic, depression or mix state...
 
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I know I need my medications you bet, they really calm me down and help me to be normal.

I have a buddy though who is bipolar and to my knowledge he doesn't take meds for it, I guess he can handle it pretty good, he has a job and makes like forty thousand a year, good for him.
 
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My meds help me so much I am terrified to think what would happen if I came off them. I don't believe meds alone is the answer though. I believe we must implement lifestyle changes as well as have a med regiment that works well.
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My Bp seems to have gotten worse with my age (has anyone else experienced this?). I wasn't dx'ed with BP untill early 2006, after a manic high mixed with alcohol got me in a car wreck (while driving in an alcohol blackout), a fight (i tried to beat someone up!), arrested (rightly so), a fall from a roof (climbing the roof without a ladder seemed rational at the time), and a broken arm (I walked around with it for a week), over a 6 month period. Me and no meds now would be.....dangerous and scares me to death.
But previous to that I made it med free for 2 & 1/2 yrs and finished an 18 month accelerated school program.
Me and the public are safer medicated.
 
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