Matthew 7:1-5

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[bible]Matthew 7:1-5[/bible]

This has always been one passage that I thought everyone agreed on. Every commentary I ever read (and I've read commentaries from all kinds of sources, Christian, non-Christian, and what CF has started calling non-Nicean).

So I was floored when someone wrote, in one of the debate forums here on CF, that she was authorized to be strongly critical of the other side by Matt 7:5. That once she "removed the beam from her own eye" -- an unspecified "beam" that apparently had no connection to the position she was criticizing -- the verse encourages strongly "defending the truth." Other posters on that board agreed with her interpretation.

I'll agree that there are verses that urge us to be strong in our faith. There are verses that urge us to rightly judge God's word. there are verses that tell us how to instruct weaker brothers. But Matthew 7:5 is not one of them. It is offered, among other purposes, as a counter for overzealousness in instruction or in defending the faith.

To my mind, the only way to reach the other person's interpretation is to not only skip past the previous four verses, but to ignore the very strong interjection with which the verse begins.

How common is this new interpretation, in your experience?
 

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JUDGING BY THE HOLY SPIRIT
John 7:24
24 "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."
2 Tim 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
John 8:26
26 "I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I heard from Him."
1 Cor 2:15
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
1 Cor 11:32
32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.
1 Cor 2:14-15
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
1 Cor 6:5
5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren?
John 12:48
48 "He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him-- the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
John 16:8-11
8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 "of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
10 "of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
11 "of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
1 Cor 6:3-4
3 Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life?
4 If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge?
1 Cor 10:15
15 I speak as to wise men; judge for yourselves what I say.
John 7:24
24 "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."
John 3:34
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
John 3:33
33 "He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.
John 7:18
18 "He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him.
John 8:44-47
44 "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
45 "But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.
46 "Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me?
47 "He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God."
Heb 12:25
25 See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven,
2 Cor 11:12-15
12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
Heb 4:12-13
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
(NKJ)
xx Whether we know it or not, we all judge with every decision we make. When we think in our minds, what we are doing is opening up ourselves in our minds to the opinions of every spirit that is in us. Then we have to decide, or judge what opinion we will go with. Now everyone is born with two opinions-one is from your guardian angel-the other is the devil. And because the devil always gives the opposite of the guardian angel we get confused. Now to those who are following Jesus Christ(christians) we are trying to learn the opinion of the Holy Spirit. Now because the Holy Spirit only quotes verses it is easy to pick His opinion out of the confusion. But it is not easy to obey the Holy Spirit. Because of the influence the devil has had over us up until this point. Now the devil has always had help from our unclean spirits(emotions). And our guardian angel has only had help from our affections which are not strong like our emotions(unclean spirits). But because we believe in the power that accompanies the Holy Spirit(verses) we step out in faith that the power will be there if we make a commitment to the Holy Spirit(verses). So when a verse comes out of our mouths that is the Holy Spirits opinion, and by us letting the verse out we show our agreement with the Holy Spirit. But when that judgement comes out that is the Holy Spirit judgeing and not us, we are just in agreement with Him. Righteous judgment is done with the verses(Word of God) carnal judgment is done with the carnal language.




 
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Please let noone reading this be decieved. You will find no other christian who believes they hear their guardian angels opinion, the devils opinion, the holy spirits supposed magical verse only opinion, on top of their own opinion... that is called schizophrenia. And no, brotherbrown, i cant prove that schizophrenia reference from the Bible, but if you pick up a psycology book, you will find it in there.
 
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