Matthew 16:17-19

[AnnaliseWong]

What does Jesus mean that Peter is the rock,and he will give him the keys of the kingdom?
and Chapter18:18 Jesus said to his disciples, whatever you forbid will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit will be permit in heaven? Is it only the privileges of those disciples?

 

[Halbhh]

What does Jesus mean that Peter is the rock,and he will give him the keys of the kingdom?
and Chapter18:18 Jesus said to his disciples, whatever you forbid will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit will be permit in heaven? Is it only the privileges of those disciples?

By guidance from the Spirit. YLT renders the text in 16:19 ".... whatever thou mayest bind upon the earth shall be having been bound in the heavens, and whatever thou mayest loose upon the earth shall be having been loosed in the heavens.'" the NIV footnotes that "... will be d bound in heaven..." could be read instead as Or 'will have been', suggesting that through Peter more would be conveyed over time. This isn't a power of Peter, but rather it's more that Peter was a vehicle. Later, when Peter errs to refuse to eat with the uncircumcised for a time, Paul confronts and corrects him. The Spirit can work through more than only Peter of course. In chapter 18 this seems to be told to them all to be conferred to all of them. Again in John 20, verses 21 through 23, the Spirit comes onto them all, and all of them can then act from the Spirit, as the Spirit is deciding, in the future. Not one of them only, but all. Initially, they are the evangelists at this moment in the gospels, receiving the commission, the first of many. The Spirit will be on them, and they will perform great signs/miracles. The Spirit will guide them in what to say when they are put on trial.

 

[friend of]

Peter is not the rock. Jesus is. He was referring to himself when Jesus spoke those things. Catholics wrongly interpret this as Peter being the rock. But Jesus is referencing the foundation of Christianity. Peter is not the foundation of Christianity, Jesus is. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15

2 Samuel 22:2-3

Psalms 118:22

Isaiah 8:14

17 Bible verses about Christ The Rock

 

[AnnaliseWong]

By guidance from the Spirit. YLT renders the text in 16:19 ".... whatever thou mayest bind upon the earth shall be having been bound in the heavens, and whatever thou mayest loose upon the earth shall be having been loosed in the heavens.'" the NIV footnotes that "... will be d bound in heaven..." could be read instead as Or 'will have been', suggesting that through Peter more would be conveyed over time. This isn't a power of Peter, but rather it's more that Peter was a vehicle. Later, when Peter errs to refuse to eat with the uncircumcised for a time, Paul confronts and corrects him. The Spirit can work through more than only Peter of course. In chapter 18 this seems to be told to them all to be conferred to all of them. Again in John 20, verses 21 through 23, the Spirit comes onto them all, and all of them can then act from the Spirit, as the Spirit is deciding, in the future. Not one of them only, but all. Initially, they are the evangelists at this moment in the gospels, receiving the commission, the first of many. The Spirit will be on them, and they will perform great signs/miracles. The Spirit will guide them in what to say when they are put on trial.

 

[AnnaliseWong]

By guidance from the Spirit. YLT renders the text in 16:19 ".... whatever thou mayest bind upon the earth shall be having been bound in the heavens, and whatever thou mayest loose upon the earth shall be having been loosed in the heavens.'" the NIV footnotes that "... will be d bound in heaven..." could be read instead as Or 'will have been', suggesting that through Peter more would be conveyed over time. This isn't a power of Peter, but rather it's more that Peter was a vehicle. Later, when Peter errs to refuse to eat with the uncircumcised for a time, Paul confronts and corrects him. The Spirit can work through more than only Peter of course. In chapter 18 this seems to be told to them all to be conferred to all of them. Again in John 20, verses 21 through 23, the Spirit comes onto them all, and all of them can then act from the Spirit, as the Spirit is deciding, in the future. Not one of them only, but all. Initially, they are the evangelists at this moment in the gospels, receiving the commission, the first of many. The Spirit will be on them, and they will perform great signs/miracles. The Spirit will guide them in what to say when they are put on trial.

hmmm sounds reasonable, thankyou. What about the blasphemy of Holy spirit, What does that mean?

 

[AnnaliseWong]

Peter is not the rock. Jesus is. He was referring to himself when Jesus spoke those things. Catholics wrongly interpret this as Peter being the rock. But Jesus is referencing the foundation of Christianity. Peter is not the foundation of Christianity, Jesus is. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15

2 Samuel 22:2-3

Psalms 118:22

Isaiah 8:14

17 Bible verses about Christ The Rock

Yes I am clear about this, I was just confused about why Jesus said these words. Thank you

 

[discipler7]

What does Jesus mean that Peter is the rock,and he will give him the keys of the kingdom?
and Chapter18:18 Jesus said to his disciples, whatever you forbid will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit will be permit in heaven? Is it only the privileges of those disciples?

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The rock and key to the kingdom is .......

MATTHEW.16: = Peter Confesses Jesus as the Christ
13 When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?”

14 So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

 

[1213]

What does Jesus mean that Peter is the rock,and he will give him the keys of the kingdom?
and Chapter18:18 Jesus said to his disciples, whatever you forbid will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit will be permit in heaven? Is it only the privileges of those disciples?

When Jesus left, he gave the leading position to Peter. And the job of disciples is to preach the Gospel of Kingdom. Disciples have the teaching and the teaching is the key.

I believe it is the privilege of all disciples of Jesus (to permit or not). But the interesting thing is, disciples of Jesus want that God’s will happen. So I don’t think they will accept everything.

 

[redleghunter]

What does Jesus mean that Peter is the rock,and he will give him the keys of the kingdom?
and Chapter18:18 Jesus said to his disciples, whatever you forbid will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit will be permit in heaven? Is it only the privileges of those disciples?

As a few have said, The Rock is Jesus and the faith proclaimed by Peter the Church will be built upon. Not only Peter's faith but also that of the other disciples.

We see this is the Book of Acts. Peter was there on Pentecost, was there for the conversion of the Samaritans and was there for the conversion of the Gentiles in the house of Cornelius. He exercised those keys. But others did as well as we know Philip was sent to the Ethiopian eunuch to preach the gospel and baptize the convert.

Then of course after Paul's encounter with Christ and conversion we see Paul plant churches all over the Roman Empire.

Each building on the Rock Who is Christ and exercising those keys proclaiming the Gospel and planting churches.

 

[BBAS 64]

Peter is not the rock. Jesus is. He was referring to himself when Jesus spoke those things. Catholics wrongly interpret this as Peter being the rock. But Jesus is referencing the foundation of Christianity. Peter is not the foundation of Christianity, Jesus is. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15

2 Samuel 22:2-3

Psalms 118:22

Isaiah 8:14

17 Bible verses about Christ The Rock

That is a fleeding view among members of the roman church:

The Roman Catholic historian Klaus Schatz comments:

"There appears at the present time to be increasing consensus among Catholic and non-Catholic exegetes regarding the Petrine office in the New Testament….The further question whether there was any notion of an enduring office beyond Peter’s lifetime, if posed in purely historical terms, should probably be answered in the negative. That is, if we ask whether the historical Jesus, in commissioning Peter, expected him to have successors, or whether the author of the Gospel of Matthew, writing after Peter’s death, was aware that Peter and his commission survived in the leaders of the Roman community who succeeded him, the answer in both cases is probably 'no.'…If we ask in addition whether the primitive Church was aware, after Peter’s death, that his authority had passed to the next bishop of Rome, or in other words that the head of the community at Rome was now the successor of Peter, the Church’s rock and hence the subject of the promise in Matthew 16:18-19, the question, put in those terms, must certainly be given a negative answer....Rome did not succeed in maintaining its position against the contrary opinion and praxis of a significant portion of the Church. The two most important controversies of this type were the disputes over the feast of Easter and heretical baptism. Each marks a stage in Rome’s sense of authority and at the same time reveals the initial resistance of other churches to the Roman claim." (Papal Primacy [Collegeville, Minnesota: The Liturgical Press, 1996], pp. 1-2, 11)


Wrap you head around this:

Roman Catholic apologist Patrick Madrid: . . the dogma being defined here is Peter’s primacy and authority over the Church — not a formal exegesis of Matthew 16. The passages from Matthew 16 and John 21 are given as reasons for defining the doctrine, but they are not themselves the subject of the definition. As anyone familiar with the dogma of papal infallibility knows, the reasons given in a dogmatic definition are not themselves considered infallible; only the result of the deliberations is protected from error. It’s always possible that while the doctrine defined is indeed infallible, some of the proofs adduced for it end up being incorrect. Patrick Madrid, Pope Fiction (San Diego: Basilica Press, 1999), p. 254.


In Him,

Bill

 

[Phil 1:21]

As a few have said, The Rock is Jesus and the faith proclaimed by Peter the Church will be built upon. Not only Peter's faith but also that of the other disciples.

We see this is the Book of Acts. Peter was there on Pentecost, was there for the conversion of the Samaritans and was there for the conversion of the Gentiles in the house of Cornelius. He exercised those keys. But others did as well as we know Philip was sent to the Ethiopian eunuch to preach the gospel and baptize the convert.

Then of course after Paul's encounter with Christ and conversion we see Paul plant churches all over the Roman Empire.

Each building on the Rock Who is Christ and exercising those keys proclaiming the Gospel and planting churches.

Not to mention, in Peter's own epistles he refers to Jesus as the cornerstone...repeatedly.

 

[Major1]

What does Jesus mean that Peter is the rock,and he will give him the keys of the kingdom?
and Chapter18:18 Jesus said to his disciples, whatever you forbid will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit will be permit in heaven? Is it only the privileges of those disciples?

As others have said and I agree, the church is not founded upon Peter but instead what Peter said..........
"Thou art the Christ the Son of the living God".

We also have Peter's own explination in 1 Peter 2:4................
"To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God and precious".

Now what are the "Keys" of the kingdom of heaven?????????

Were they just given to Peter???????

NO!

Jesus gives them to those who make the same confession made by Peter who accept Christ as Saviour.

With a little study and reading, we can find out that the "KEYS" were the badge of authority of the office of the scribes who interpreted the Scriptures to the people.
You will find that in Nehemiah 8:2-8.

Every Christian today has the Scriptures and therefore has the KEYS.

If we withhold the Word we "loose on earth". No man or individual church has the keys to the exclusion of all other believers.

So what we bind here we bind in heaven and the opposite is just as true.

Then "blasphemy" of the Holy Spirit is the rejecting of the Lord Jesus Christ as He is the one who the Holy Spirit points to after He convicts the lost sinner of his sin.

 

[Halbhh]

hmmm sounds reasonable, thankyou. What about the blasphemy of Holy spirit, What does that mean?

Most of us have at times made the (such as during teenage rebellion) error/sin of taking God's name in vain, but this isn't what is meant, as you see by reading the surrounding verses (those kinds of blaspheme are actually forgivable Christ said; of course, we should confess in our hearts to God and and repent), but instead to intentionally blaspheme the Spirit in particular, which means not accidentally, nor without knowing what you are doing, but on purpose and directly, and here's the part that makes it really rare -- actually knowing what you are referring to. Many wonder if they have merely because they did some cursing as a teenager without actually knowing the Spirit in truth (growing up in a church, even getting baptized as a kid, these don't get one there yet). Those that don't know that Spirit yet could not blaspheme the Spirit I think, because they'd just be talking about what they haven't any good idea of. We are not held responsible for what we do not understand. So I think it means to fully have had the Spirit (which many never have yet), and then to knowingly and intentionally blaspheme, which seems to be going from a condition of true communion (which many haven't even gotten to yet, despite being raised in a church) and then doing this evil.

 

[Major1]

Most of us have at times made the (such as during teenage rebellion) error/sin of taking God's name in vain, but this isn't what is meant, as you see by reading the surrounding verses (those kinds of blaspheme are actually forgivable Christ said; of course, we should confess in our hearts to God and and repent), but instead to intentionally blaspheme the Spirit in particular, which means not accidentally, nor without knowing what you are doing, but on purpose and directly, and here's the part that makes it really rare -- actually knowing what you are referring to. Many wonder if they have merely because they did some cursing as a teenager without actually knowing the Spirit in truth (growing up in a church, even getting baptized as a kid, these don't get one there yet). Those that don't know that Spirit yet could not blaspheme the Spirit I think, because they'd just be talking about what they haven't any good idea of. We are not held responsible for what we do not understand. So I think it means to fully have had the Spirit (which many never have yet), and then to knowingly and intentionally blaspheme, which seems to be going from a condition of true communion (which many haven't even gotten to yet, despite being raised in a church) and then doing this evil.

Consider that those who do not accept Christ would in effect be rejecting the Holy Spirit who is God.

Jesus mentions a sin that is unforgivable in Matt. 12:31-32 and calls it blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

A believer cannot commit the unforgivable sin. How can someone who has been born again, made a new creation, and received eternal life actually commit the unforgivable sin? He cannot. Jesus Himself said that we have eternal life, not conditional life: ......
John 10:27-28...............
"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand".

Besides, it says in 2 Cor. 5:17 that the Christian is a new creation in Christ. We are different, no longer slaves to the old nature (Rom. 6:14). We are regenerated by the Holy Spirit.

There is no biblical support for a believer committing this sin. It just hasn't happened. Also, if you are worried that you may have committed the sin and can't be forgiven, then don't be concerned. If you are worrying about it, then you haven't committed it. If you are worried about it, that is a sign you have not committed it. If you had, you wouldn't be concerned.