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I feel like making a pile of everything I own and treasure and burning it in a oil covered fire...maybe even jumping into it.

I have no purpose in life, no passions, no achievements that matter. Becoming a high school teacher is a horrible job with horrible pay and that's my future. I can't even indulge in materialism because I'll be a lower Middle class loser living barely by the skin of my teeth.
Without family I quite literally would have no reason to live. Not even God comforts me anymore. The more I think of God the less caring he seems. And in any case I'm going to Hell if it even exists at all.
 

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I feel like making a pile of everything I own and treasure and burning it in a oil covered fire...maybe even jumping into it.

I have no purpose in life, no passions, no achievements that matter. Becoming a high school teacher is a horrible job with horrible pay and that's my future. I can't even indulge in materialism because I'll be a lower Middle class loser living barely by the skin of my teeth.
Without family I quite literally would have no reason to live. Not even God comforts me anymore. The more I think of God the less caring he seems. And in any case I'm going to Hell if it even exists at all.
Hey, it's 3:00 in the AM where I am and it's a lonely time I know. Now that you have listed the cons of your life how about listing the pros?

Or how about listing what your true needs are and see if they're met?

I sometimes think all is lost, throw it all away but then I stop and count my blessings. And when I do I know that the L-RD is looking out for me.

Both my parents were teachers and I can tell you from experience that a teacher is not a horrible job, helping to form young minds, encourage them in their goals and abilities is sometimes the only positive in their lives. I know my mother used to say that they couldn't travel anywhere that someone didn't recognize him and come up and shake his hand, hug and tell him how happy they were to see him again and that he was their most memorable teacher they ever had. Many went on to do great things but always remembered him. And by anywhere I mean it, they would be in an airport out of country and still run into someone.

So who knows who you may inspire? Another Einstein, a Curie, Pastor, or another Watson and Crick?

Think of what you could be, what your could accomplish.....................
 
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The Pros I have is I can weasel through academic assignments with minimal effort and I have a family that are ok with the fact that I'm a worthless leech who is 23 and is still afraid of driving.

The only dream I've ever had is writing a fantasy novel, but all good ideas have been done and I'm too lazy to even write the first page. Plus I'm artistically dead.

A goal is I wish I could be a faithful Christian like other people but the fact is my mind is always in doubt, I always am questioning God's morality and it is impossible for me to live without sin. I've succumb to sins of chronic hatred, slothfulness and lust with no escape in sight.
 
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The Pros I have is I can weasel through academic assignments with minimal effort and I have a family that are ok with the fact that I'm a worthless leech who is 23 and is still afraid of driving.

The only dream I've ever had is writing a fantasy novel, but all good ideas have been done and I'm too lazy to even write the first page. Plus I'm artistically dead.

A goal is I wish I could be a faithful Christian like other people but the fact is my mind is always in doubt, I always am questioning God's morality and it is impossible for me to live without sin. I've succumb to sins of chronic hatred, slothfulness and lust with no escape in sight.
No one is sinless but the son of G-d. We may strive to be like him and when we fall and repent he is faithful to forgive us and pick us up and help us on our way.
We only live one day at a time, so take the next 24 hours and see what really great things you can do with it.

Help someone
Thank someone
Pray for someone
Write one opening sentence
Clean your workspace
Share your knowledge with someone
Read your bible, Psalms is a good place to start
________________________ fill in something you find that affects someone around you in a positive way.

come back tomorrow and let's see how you did, I know you can do this, and I do not believe you are worthless.
 
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I feel like making a pile of everything I own and treasure and burning it in a oil covered fire...maybe even jumping into it.

I have no purpose in life, no passions, no achievements that matter. Becoming a high school teacher is a horrible job with horrible pay and that's my future. I can't even indulge in materialism because I'll be a lower Middle class loser living barely by the skin of my teeth.
Without family I quite literally would have no reason to live. Not even God comforts me anymore. The more I think of God the less caring he seems. And in any case I'm going to Hell if it even exists at all.

I also severely struggle with believing in a personal, loving God; I am sure for many of the same reasons you and others do. This is not something I have yet come to find a resolution to. Sometimes all the nice, "fluffy" stuff presented in the Christian community simple does not seem to align with the God of the Bible. As of now, I think the best I can do is admit - I do not understand - and pray for wisdom.

My best advice is this. Somehow, someway find some "inner joy", so to speak and choose to be happy now, enjoy the present moment. For the Christian, this source of joy has to be Jesus and our hope in Him. He alone, and the hope of a brighter future, have to be our source of peace and happiness. If you are unhappy in your circumstances because of depression, a change of circumstances will likely not make it any better.

For example, I "thought" when I was a teen, getting my first job would make me happier or fulfilled. Then it was a second job. Then a degree. These things have not satisfied me. Now, it is friends, a boyfriend, my license, or a career in the field my degree is in. However, based on past experiences, such will likely not bring any lasting happiness. There are people who are far off better than us in worldly circumstances, with fame and fortune, who are still not happy. By contrast, I am sure there are others - friendless, jobless, persecuted, terminally ill - who are somehow content.

I wish I could offer better advice, but all I can say echo the sentiments of Psalms 34, I Thessalonians 16, Colossians 3, Isaiah 26:3, and Philippians 4. Choose joy. Choose to be happy now. Also, see rejoicing in Him as a commandment from God. Offer the "sacrifice of praise" referred to in Hebrews 13. Easier said than done. I know.

Praying for you.
 
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Jesus was a carpenter and Peter was a fisherman, and they were lower class. We don't need to judge ourselves by worldly standards. Its the world, not God, who tells us we need to be upper class. Maybe you should consider finding something you enjoy doing. It doesn't need to give you a lot of wealth as long as it pays the bills, and its helpful to enjoy what you do, whatever it may be.

As far as a personal relationship with God goes, the bible teaches us to look at the unseen things. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, and evidence of things not seen. I try not to worry about feelings and about seeing everything, but instead I try to walk by faith, not sight. I cant speak for others but for me personally, faith is not about feelings but its about hope.




This is faith-

2 Corithians 5:4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

6 Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. 7 For we live by faith, not by sight.



Romans 8:23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.



2 Corinthians 4:18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal.


Colossians 3 Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. 2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. 3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is your[a] life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
 
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Hey brother,

I can totally relate to where you're at right now in your life. I personally used to be scared of driving myself-well..taking the test to be specific. I also felt like God didn't care about my circumstances nor how I was feeling..and I didn't think that somehow someday that I'd ever see the blue through the grey from a heart filled with anger, bitterness, hurt, pain, unforgiveness, lust, etc. Back in 2012, I finally surrendered because I honestly couldn't handle all that weight and shame and guilt and hurt and pain on my own. I needed someone bigger than me to shoulder it all. And that's when Christ met me where I was. I didn't have to 'come clean' or 'be perfect' in order for Him to step in and do something. No- He met me in the mess and darkness that I was in. And He looked on me with compassion, just like He's looking at you with compassion..and in His mercy, He revealed to me just how much He cared for me and cared for what I was going through.

I want to share with you a song that may help comfort you:

Also..
This is something that may help strengthen your belief, your faith, and hope like it has for mine time and time again.
I intentionally skipped it to the time in the video that I wanted you to view it from [should start at 52:22]. I've probably watched this about 8 times already.. it's super powerful and far from boring ♥ I highly recommend it

 
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I feel like making a pile of everything I own and treasure and burning it in a oil covered fire...maybe even jumping into it.

I have no purpose in life, no passions, no achievements that matter. Becoming a high school teacher is a horrible job with horrible pay and that's my future. I can't even indulge in materialism because I'll be a lower Middle class loser living barely by the skin of my teeth.
Without family I quite literally would have no reason to live. Not even God comforts me anymore. The more I think of God the less caring he seems. And in any case I'm going to Hell if it even exists at all.

We rarely seem to have a specific clear purpose, and our achievements are something we can't take with us when we leave this life. But indeed, that's something we struggle with. I have struggled with it too, and will again. We might feel ashamed and useless, but at the same time we can learn to be thankful for what we have.

I'm on a disability pension myself. I'm nearing 40. It's probably not much, but the few years I actually worked raised it to this level where I can pay the rent for my crappy small apartment, buy food and survive. I don't travel, eat at restaurants, get fancy clothes, don't even have a car anymore. I have little, but I don't need more. In fact, I have more than I need: I have games, movies and such. I have no wife and children, but I have a couple of friends.

We will meet people who have a clear role in society and some wealth too, but who are still lost and struggling with a lot of things. We will meet people who had it all, but lost it. We will meet people who are no different than us, and they might even need our help, no matter how their life is otherwise. And about passions: sometimes they're hidden. Some people find their passions when they're older, or through some circumstances (illness, accident, meeting a certain person, taking a chance, whatever it may be).

These kind of phases are important. We question our place in the world, we see that many things simply don't matter. It's harder to deal with if we suffer from depression or something like it, but it can be very beneficial for us. When we are down, at some point we will humble ourselves. We will rebel, of course, with anger and hate, often directed at ourselves and even God, but at some point we are humbled. And we pray. We need guidance, because the world doesn't make sense anymore, and we pray for it. We put our hope in Christ. And we get patience, because often we are forced to. We will start to see the things that really matter, and we will have more peace than we ever did. We might even start to think less about what we don't have, and more about what we can give. The best kind of freedom.

I was depressed for almost 20 years (still am a little, but I can't complain, I'm so much better now). During those years I had only a few jobs, both I had to quit. I lost all the lovers and companions I had, one remains friends with me. I went to hospitals all the time, lots of treatments. I was an alcoholic, and I felt severe anguish, I was hopeless. My mother helped me, and besides her, all I had was God. It's not like I was (or still am) the best christian, far from it. I had doubts, I was almost an atheist at one point, and I was arrogant towards God and christians. But I eventually got better. Much shame, much feelings of worthlessness, but I now have more peace of mind than I ever did.

This is not to say that your journey will be the same as mine. But put your hope in Christ. Even if you don't have the patience, or even if you feel like He doesn't care or exist, just pray with the honesty you have. Because then you seek, and you shall be answered. In time. It's in our nature not to be faithful, but it's in His nature to always be faithful.
We don't need to pretend in front of God. It won't work. If we only have a little faith, or none at all, we should pray as we are; no matter how faithless or sinful we might feel.

From Luke 18:

9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”


Said a prayer for you.
 
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I feel like making a pile of everything I own and treasure and burning it in a oil covered fire...maybe even jumping into it.

I have no purpose in life, no passions, no achievements that matter. Becoming a high school teacher is a horrible job with horrible pay and that's my future. I can't even indulge in materialism because I'll be a lower Middle class loser living barely by the skin of my teeth.
Without family I quite literally would have no reason to live. Not even God comforts me anymore. The more I think of God the less caring he seems. And in any case I'm going to Hell if it even exists at all.

Dear brother depression is like that, it twists everything out of perspective and leaves us behind bereft of our good life. This is why it is so important to stay in the truth of God. The truth of God will protect from harm and teach us to resist depression and its misery and overcome it, but believing the lies of depression will not bring us any good.

Please take stock of the situation my brother, suffering tells us things which aren’t true.

That is what The Word told me, when on the brink of suicide I heard what He said - what I sow that is what I would harvest. When I took sock of my seeds supplies I realised that it were all weeds and would not bring me good food to eat. I was sowing loveless thoughts and feelings in my heart and mind all the time. Establishing feelings and thoughts like;
self hate,
hopelessness,
bitterness,
despair,
sadness,
loneliness,
guilt,
regret,
shame,
stupidity,
doubt,
unbelief,
confusion,
weakness,
and so much fear.

life was hell when I heeded/agreed with such thoughts and feelings. The Word of God taught me that sowing the good seed works much better.

So I began to sow the truth of God's Word in my heart.

In a nutshell love, faith and hope in an all loving/forgiving God through Jesus Christ brought me more love, faith and hope and began to improve my life enormously.

His loving truth brought me,

Peace,
rest,
harmony,
ability,
identity,
self-control,
humbleness,
clarity,
endurance,
long suffering,
insight,
love for all people,
meekness,
compassion,
and the dethroning of my big I.

Life is much better in God's truth, even though depression as an illness still often befalls me , it is nowhere as debilitating as it was before. At least I'm back with my loved ones again, for years I was cut off emotionally from them, but now I have good healthy relationship with them again.

I thank God very often for helping me to overcome the lies of my depression, with Him even deepest misery brings forth good things, honestly true.

Have a look how the word of God introduces us to Jesus, and how true to His Word He is.

Isaiah 61
The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord is on me,
because the Lord has anointed me
to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives
and release from darkness for the prisoners,
to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor
and the day of vengeance of our God,
to comfort all who mourn,
and provide for those who grieve in Zion—
to bestow on them a crown of beauty
instead of ashes,
the oil of joy
instead of mourning,
and a garment of praise
instead of a spirit of despair.
They will be called oaks of righteousness,
a planting of the Lord
for the display of his splendor.



They will rebuild the ancient ruins
and restore the places long devastated;
they will renew the ruined cities
that have been devastated for generations.
Strangers will shepherd your flocks;
foreigners will work your fields and vineyards.
And you will be called priests of the Lord,
you will be named ministers of our God.
You will feed on the wealth of nations,
and in their riches you will boast.



Instead of your shame
you will receive a double portion,
and instead of disgrace
you will rejoice in your inheritance.
And so you will inherit a double portion in your land,
and everlasting joy will be yours.



“For I, the Lord, love justice;
I hate robbery and wrongdoing.
In my faithfulness I will reward my people
and make an everlasting covenant with them.
Their descendants will be known among the nations
and their offspring among the peoples.
All who see them will acknowledge
that they are a people the Lord has blessed.”



I delight greatly in the Lord;
my soul rejoices in my God.
For he has clothed me with garments of salvation
and arrayed me in a robe of his righteousness,
as a bridegroom adorns his head like a priest,
and as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.
For as the soil makes the sprout come up
and a garden causes seeds to grow,
so the Sovereign Lord will make righteousness
and praise spring up before all nations.






 
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Hi again sorry for my delay. Yesterday went by without anything of worth happening. I woke up late and spent most of my evening and night at my minimum wage job.

I really worry because I feel a lot of the time I'm just giving false joy or compassion. I know it's my own spiritual laziness but I worry that I'm just not built to ever be a good Christian or even a worthwhile human in general.
 
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Hi again sorry for my delay. Yesterday went by without anything of worth happening. I woke up late and spent most of my evening and night at my minimum wage job.

I really worry because I feel a lot of the time I'm just giving false joy or compassion. I know it's my own spiritual laziness but I worry that I'm just not built to ever be a good Christian or even a worthwhile human in general.

Friend, none of us should boast. There should be no "good" christians at all, in that sense. Without Christ, we are all doomed - who is worthwhile in that scenario?

This is the freedom we have in Him: We are all the same, we all need Him. And we should love one another, and strive to be each other's servants.
 
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