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The issue of masturbation is controversial in Christianity (as in all religions). Church teaches that masturbation is harmful. Doctors tell a different story. Who's right here? Is masturbation, in your opinion, a health issue or moral religious issue?
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Masturbation is neither a health of moral issue, it is merely a distraction from real issues, and discussing it is even more fruitless than doing it. It is merely beating about the bush. (Sorry, I just had to say that.)

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I think if done in moderation it's nothing but something to do while sitting at home alone. Humans are sexual creatures, and for those of us who are unmarried the sexual urges can range from annoying to downright un-ignorable (is that a word? Well, it is now. :p ) To me, it's just a way to get some release so you can roll over and sleep without thinking of or dreaming of sex all night.
 
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It's harmful, for your soul as it is unnatural. It's not, as far as I know, harmful for your physical health, which is the only thing the common doctor can say anything about.

Catholic Catechism states:
Catholic Catechism said:
2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action." "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."
To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

 
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hannabl said:
It's harmful, for your soul as it is unnatural. It's not, as far as I know, harmful for your physical health, which is the only thing the common doctor can say anything about.

Catholic Catechism states: 2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action." "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."
To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.


I think that is an unfortunate attitute towards what is OK in the realm of sexual pleasure. But if one must follow these teachings so be it. Just one more temptation to overcome.

I don't believe there is any mention in the bible, however.
 
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comana said:
I think that is an unfortunate attitute towards what is OK in the realm of sexual pleasure. But if one must follow these teachings so be it. Just one more temptation to overcome.

I don't believe there is any mention in the bible, however.

You're right, asa far as I know, the bible don't have the word 'masturbation' in it. Though you could use quotes like
"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body." 1 Corinthians 6:18 (NIV)

and others like that, and claim that it's immoral.

But that's a Christian view. I do, however, know non-christians that think it's bad as well, simply because they think it's unnatural and makes you feel bad about yourself... But that I can't argue, as mypoint is what the catechism teaches, that it is harmful as it sins against your body.
 
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I definetly think it is not helpful in the least bit. Right now I am fighting against an addiction to it, you start to think "ah well it doesn't harm me and it will make me feel better" But it is only tempory after a while, ranging from a month to less than a day the urge comes back, depending on the person. The more you do it the more you want it. I think if theres a chance it will harm you don't do it, it's all to easy to let it swallow up your life. Especially for teen guys. Theres the moral side too, according to the bible lust is wrong and lust is exactly what touching yourself is. Also if you look at porn then you encorage the business so that it grows and becomes more of a problem to other teens. Nw there are even porno video games which, seeing some of them myself, I can votch that they are terrible. They depict women as objects to be won who have no brains and are there just to be fooled into sex and then dumped:sick:
 
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Fear said:
Masturbation is a mortal sin, all who do this vile act will surely die.

That is not appropriate for the current situation. Such radical statements draw one away from Christianity or any religion.
 
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Fear said:
All those who don't partake in the vile act of masturbation will surely die as well.

Please don't be a pratt, it doesn't show you up as being particuarly smart (not that you aren't smart but this doesn't show you as being so) it also doesn't help the convorsation seeing as you're an atheist it obviously isn't what you really think. Why don't you try to contribute something useful. If not there isn't much point in you saying anything at all.
 
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walking with christ said:
Please don't be a pratt, it doesn't show you up as being particuarly smart (not that you aren't smart but this doesn't show you as being so) it also doesn't help the convorsation seeing as you're an atheist it obviously isn't what you really think. Why don't you try to contribute something useful. If not there isn't much point in you saying anything at all.

There's not much I can contribute that hasn't already been said. Masturbation is healthy in moderation, I don't think anyone disputes this. By my standards of morality masturbation is great. Nobody gets hurt, it's good for you, it's enjoyable. Don't abuse a good thing, don't over-eat, touch all day, drink yourself dead, or anything like that.

I'm not saying things that I don't really think. Everyone dies, whether they touch or not.
 
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