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Refer to post #213Who said masturbation is void of thought?? Lol
Did you not read the OP?? Lol The whole post is about masturbation within marriage. The reason its weird to me, is that no sexual activity with my spouse is off limits. Your question is bizarre.Are you really asking why would your wife care?
Because she’s your wife, isn’t she whom your sexual affections lie?!?!? Isn’t that the person you’re caring to have sex with and things you wanna do sexually?Lol!
You can’t ask your wife these things because it’s weird?!? But it’s not weird on a forum.... makes sense.
Did you not read the OP?? Lol The whole post is about masturbation within marriage. The reason its weird to me, is that no sexual activity with my spouse is off limits. Your question is bizarre.
Well, the other thread about this topic prompted this discussion. I think it's good to hammer through these topics regardless of my position. I don't really understand your point here tbh.then if you believe that no sexual activity with your spouse is off limits, then Idk what answer you're looking for other than from cheerleaders.
Well, the other thread about this topic prompted this discussion. I think it's good to hammer through these topics regardless of my position. I don't really understand your point here tbh.
I am being a little facetious. My point is that marriage seems to involve more than its fair share of unsated "burning with passion".there is much pondering by many that Paul may have been widowed. I haven't seen anything in concrete that would solidify that statement but there's plenty of suspicion
I believe so. I think the bonding of 2 people into one during sex is at the physical brain level, and sex is designed to achieve this through strong emotional activation.Obviously to release the sexual pressure. When you're not married and thus can't do the "100% morally clean sexual relieve", your sexual desire gradually increases over time, leading to stronger sexual thoughts. Which leads me to:
^Obviously what Paul said was connected to the adultery. I mean if we take the thoughtless masturbation as a pure sexual relief, how exactly is it different from scratching one's private areas? Is it because it activates different parts of the brain?
Is everyone so sure that masturbation has no ill effects?scientific studies have proven that the body knows the difference between masturbation and sex. The effects of masturbation are minimal in health terms to full fledged sex. The brain knows the difference. The body knows the difference and thus the heart knows.
Oh I realize that, and their point quite frankly doesn't make any sense. You would have to first think something is a sin in order to justify it. Since I don't think it's a sin, nothing to justify.their point of that response to this thread is that it appears you are looking for validation to your acts, sinful or not.
I can certainly think of many possible negative effects to masturbation. There can also be negative effects to drinking water. Interestingly enough, the negative effects that exist to drinking water are greater than masturbating.Is everyone so sure that masturbation has no ill effects?
https://www.boldsky.com/health/wellness/2014/harmful-effects-of-masturbation-in-men-043901.html
https://www.askmen.com/dating/love_tip_500/500_negative-side-effects-of-masturbation.html
That's a pretty weak reply. I had President of a Christian school tell me that gay sex was ok too because God made our sex organs. The truth is that God gave us all our parts for specific uses, not for us to find ways to pervert their use. Using your reasoning, it would be ok for us to stick our fingers up our anus and touch should we desire to do so since the Bible doesn't tell us that we can't (we're all adults here I hope).I can certainly think of many possible negative effects to masturbation. There can also be negative effects to drinking water. Interestingly enough, the negative effects that exist to drinking water are greater than masturbating.
It's not a weak reply, it's the logical conclusion to your reasoning. You suggested that just because something has a possible negative side effect, it should be refrained from doing. That's asinine.That's a pretty weak reply. I had President of a Christian school tell me that gay sex was ok too because God made our sex organs. The truth is that God gave us all our parts for specific uses, not for us to find ways to pervert their use. Using your reasoning, it would be ok for us to stick our fingers up our anus and touch should we desire to do so since the Bible doesn't tell us that we can't (we're all adults here I hope).
Certainly it is not the real deal. The brain also knows the difference between seawater and fresh, doesn't mean the seawater is good for us though. I relate from many years of solitary existence.scientific studies have proven that the body knows the difference between masturbation and sex. The effects of masturbation are minimal in health terms to full fledged sex. The brain knows the difference. The body knows the difference and thus the heart knows.
It's a logical conclusion to "my reasoning". That itself, doesn't make any sense. You want to claim that it's ok from a Christian perspective because no where in the Bible it does not say, "Thou shalt not touch". Just because something isn't in the Bible doesn't mean that it's something that God would approve of. Sometimes you need to need to use common Christian sense. The real truth is that you just want to do it and so you want to justify your actions. That's your choice but you shouldn't be telling people here that it's alright in order to appease your conscience. Wack-on.It's not a weak reply, it's the logical conclusion to your reasoning. You suggested that just because something has a possible negative side effect, it should be refrained from doing. That's asinine.
Go read the OP. I never said it was okay, I said the Bible doesn't say either way. I personally think it's not a sin, but if others do, rock on. What you're attempting to do is insert your opinion into Scripture by telling others it's definatively a sin. The Bible is perfect without you in it. As I said before, I don't need to justify doing something I think is fine to do, that doesn't even make sense.It's a logical conclusion to "my reasoning". That itself, doesn't make any sense. You want to claim that it's ok from a Christian perspective because no where in the Bible it does not say, "Thou shalt not touch". Just because something isn't in the Bible doesn't mean that it's something that God would approve of. Sometimes to need to use common Christian sense. The real truth is that you just want to do it and so you want to justify your actions. That's your choice but you shouldn't be telling people here that it's alright in order to appease your conscience. Wack-on.
Is everyone so sure that masturbation has no ill effects?
https://www.boldsky.com/health/wellness/2014/harmful-effects-of-masturbation-in-men-043901.html
https://www.askmen.com/dating/love_tip_500/500_negative-side-effects-of-masturbation.html
Then if it’s that dire, go and get married. Have a wife satisfy you. It’s 60% women to 40% men, so odds are on your side. If a person can’t help theirselves and it’s that neccesary to survive and breathe, then go get married. But if it’s not that much of an urge, and you don’t wish to get married, then resist.But if you’re masturbating, that it’s against Gods will, which is to honor your body. No debates.
And There is no such thing as thoughtless touching yourself. It’s a deliberate decision coupled with action for a specific goal. Like bathing, you touch your body parts to wash up. Like scratching to relieve an itch. Masturbation isn’t void of thought
Not how that worked. Back in the 50s and 60s the "dirty stories" that we were warned against (but we found and read anyway) would phrase it something like "She masturbated him."So the woman is probably guilt-free then in that case, because its still the man that would be masturbating, based on your logic...
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