Masculinity in Orthodoxy

[gzt]

‘Masculinity’, so far as I am aware, is not an Orthodox term. It is not a term that has any traditional place in Christianity. It is a term embraced by the secular world because this world has rejected normal concepts of humanity, in which of course there is male and there is female, there is child, there is adult. These are simply human beings. But because the world has lost sight of the basics of what it means to be human, it is forced to respond to the lack of clarity it has pushed on itself by fostering these concepts of ‘femininity’, ‘masculinity’, and so on.

 

[ArmyMatt]

‘Seeking After Worldly Visions of “Masculinity” is Not an Orthodox Pursuit’: A Word From Bishop Irenei. | ROCOR Europe

The following brief talk was given by His Grace Bishop Irenei of London and Western Europe after the Divine Liturgy of 25th May 2025 in the Diocesan Cathedral, London. Christ is risen! I wish to say a small word here after this Divine Service, in the name of the Father and of the Son, and…

orthodox-europe.org

 

[Dorothea]

‘Seeking After Worldly Visions of “Masculinity” is Not an Orthodox Pursuit’: A Word From Bishop Irenei. | ROCOR Europe

The following brief talk was given by His Grace Bishop Irenei of London and Western Europe after the Divine Liturgy of 25th May 2025 in the Diocesan Cathedral, London. Christ is risen! I wish to say a small word here after this Divine Service, in the name of the Father and of the Son, and…

orthodox-europe.org

I just finished reading that this evening. I'm glad to hear a hierarch address this. Thanks for sharing it here.

 

[Not David]

‘Masculinity’, so far as I am aware, is not an Orthodox term. It is not a term that has any traditional place in Christianity. It is a term embraced by the secular world because this world has rejected normal concepts of humanity, in which of course there is male and there is female, there is child, there is adult. These are simply human beings. But because the world has lost sight of the basics of what it means to be human, it is forced to respond to the lack of clarity it has pushed on itself by fostering these concepts of ‘femininity’, ‘masculinity’, and so on.

Are you referring to this article BBC posted about Orthodoxy and manliness?

Orthodox Christianity: Young US men joining 'masculine' Russian churches

A religion with traditions dating back centuries is attracting young American men.

www.bbc.com

 

[E.C.]

If anything, this matter highlights the need for proper education among the Orthodox, both clergy and laity, on what Orthodoxy actually is and what being Orthodox actually entails.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Are you referring to this article BBC posted about Orthodoxy and manliness?

Orthodox Christianity: Young US men joining 'masculine' Russian churches

A religion with traditions dating back centuries is attracting young American men.

www.bbc.com

that priest refuted the article, basically said what His Grace said FYI.

 

[seashale76]

that priest refuted the article, basically said what His Grace said FYI.

That particular priest was probably told to get in line by his own bishop, if I had to guess. His bishop also (rightly) had him take down his 'Hot Holy Matrix' video that was far beneath something a priest should ever post. What's more surprising is that his bishop hasn't yet banned him from making videos.

 

[ArmyMatt]

That particular priest was probably told to get in line by his own bishop, if I had to guess. His bishop also (rightly) had him take down his 'Hot Holy Matrix' video that was far beneath something a priest should ever post. What's more surprising is that his bishop hasn't yet banned him from making videos.

I am sure that his bishop has his reasons, which he will answer for.

 

[E.C.]

That particular priest was probably told to get in line by his own bishop, if I had to guess. His bishop also (rightly) had him take down his 'Hot Holy Matrix' video that was far beneath something a priest should ever post. What's more surprising is that his bishop hasn't yet banned him from making videos.

Considering that the priest is ROCOR and ROCOR has a history of not holding priests accountable for the right things yet making mountains out of molehills for the wrong things, this is not surprising.

But mark my words: they'll allow him to continue saying borderline misogynistic if not outright misogynistic things forever, but the day he says "gee maybe Orthodoxy in America should be American and not just Diet Russian" he'll be defrocked before you can say gospodi pomiloy.