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Mary is Isis/Venus?

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citations from reputable academic sources to support your assertion, please

How is mary the Queen of Heaven tells us that first, then we can know what we are talking about.

Mary can never be the queen of heaven without something having to give.
 
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I am assuming that god tells us what he wants and what he does not want.

How does he tell you; through men like Alexander Hislop? The Two Babylons was discredited by real historians long ago. Not only did he make wild connections, he fabricated things. The man started with a presupposition and worked backwards and reached really hard to make things fit. Even folks who were well and ready to believe him found out his work was a sham, to their dismay, when they actually checked his sources. Jack Chick and his little con-artist friend only made an even bigger gothic novella out of the whole kit and kaboodle by taking his work and running with it (no need for source citations and truth in that little fantasy land). Always check your sources and quit getting your history from hysterical conspiracy sites.
 
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here is post #4 that you seemed to have missed:

Helen Blavatsky,lived late 19th c., was a spiritist and occultist who is said to have founded (iirc, others say was one of the founders of) Theosophy.
She later had two more marriages, many lovers, and an illegitimate child. Biographers report that she swore fluently in at least three languages, exhibited a violent temper, and was addicted to hashish. She founded Theosophy on November 17, 1875, and said of her ability to influence thousands that people "in every part of the world have turned into asses at my whistle and have obediently wagged their long ears as I piped the tune".
http://www.bloomington.in.us/~lgthscac/theosophy.htm

She, along with the famous satanist and formulater of "magick" Aleister Crowley (whom she knew) is credited with the popularization of the occult, the reintroduction of paganism and the development of neo-paganism.

I would hardly consider her a credible source on any matter related to Christianity.
Seashale has given another author of dubious merit who claims this drivel; one may add the discredited work of James Frazer, and you find yourself in seriously suspect company.
 
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Catholic means universal,

How can you be holy, set apart and universal?
Revelation 7:9
After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands,
 
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I am assuming that god tells us what he wants and what he does not want.

Did God tell Solomon that He wanted images in the temple? Did God tell Solomon to build a temple?

Was God pleased or displeased with Solomon's temple and all of the images in it?

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Did God tell Solomon that He wanted images in the temple? Did God tell Solomon to build a temple?

Was God pleased or displeased with Solomon's temple and all of the images in it?

Peawce

Are you saying the skulls and icons in the Catholic Church are justified by the Temple in Jerusalem? even though we do not know where the catholic chursc got the designs from?
 
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Are you saying the skulls and icons in the Catholic Church are justified by the Temple in Jerusalem? even though we do not know where the catholic chursc got the designs from?
yes, we are free in Christ are we not? through the Incarnation God became a being we can see and touch, and make pictures of.
The skull is a powerful image, it reminds us that we are all going to die, but it is also true that in Jesus we have hope of life everlasting, Ezekial had a vision of a feild of dry bones, seems like God has no problem with useing bones as a symbol, why should we?
 
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If Catholics maintain that Mary is a Queen of heaven, then it is surely Isis/ Venus/ Astarte.

The Mary in the New Testament is not Venus, but when Rome wanted to have its cake and eat it, they changed Venus into St Mary.

There is a Egyptian Trinity- Osiris, Isis and Horus.

Horus is the anti christ the resurrection of the sun God Osiris.

I think the Constaintine conversion was the attempt by Thr Roamn empire to turn Christianity into a mystery religion. Well they suceeded

That makes as much sense as "if you follow Christ as your leader, then you are a wolf, because wolves follow a leader"

Do you really believe Horus is going to ressurect?
 
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Revelation 7:9
Yes, the Jewish/Hebrew book of Revelation is quite a book.
"palms" on used twice though there is a similar word #5405 and perhaps that is symbolizing where they are from....

John 12:13 they got the branches of the palms/foinikwn <5404>, and came out into a meeting to him, and cryout "hosanna being blessed the one coming in name of Lord--the king of the Israel"

Reve 7:9 After these I saw and behold! a throng vast, whom to number him no-one was *able, out of every nation and tribes and peoples and tongues having *stood in view of the throne and in view of the lambkin having been about-cast stoles white and palms/foinikeV <5404> in the hands of them.

5404. phoinix foy'-nix of uncertain derivation; a palm-tree:--palm (tree).
5405. Phoinix foy'-nix probably the same as 5404; Phoenix, a place in Crete:--Phenice.
 
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