Marxism, BLM, and LGBT in School Curriculum

[thecolorsblend]

isn't a government mandated system that enforces what is deemed acceptable behavior and belief exactly what conservatives want?

Not sure what conservatives those would be.

Still, the plain reality is that somebody's moral worldview must be enshrined into social policy. That's why I'm far more comfortable with the Social Kingship Of Christ now than I used to be.

 

[wing2000]

I'm asking how you link Floyd's death to curriculum and the agendized pushed for Green New Deal type socialism. How is any of that linked?

It's not linked...except maybe by you?

 

[All Englands Skies]

It’s not clear to me what aspects of Marxism are being taught, can you elaborate?

I can only think of Marx's theory on the "natural order" of society and the world, that all of history and life itself is defined by the "Oppressor" and thee "Oppressed", in Marx's time he felt it culminated in Bourgeoisie, Capitalist masters and proletarian, worker oppressed, (though he does mention previous modes of oppression in history, such as slave master and slave, feudal Lord and Serf, Imperialist and colonial subject, etc) rather than the "white Privileged and people of colour" thing defined more by "race" (in fact Marx was quite racist himself).

 

[Ana the Ist]

On the subject of public school curricula, the Daughters of the Confederacy have had 150 years to push their historical revisionism in public schools. A little bit of BLM pushing in the other direction isn't that big a deal.

Because the answer to ignorant narrative driven garbage is....more ignorant narrative driven garbage?

 

[Belk]

Well the agenda that was hidden (more or less) is now in the open. Same way with the liberal media. Teacher unions have always been liberal. Now if you don't accept BLM you are a labeled a racist. Division and intimidation is how they work. All the big companies now support it, so they can basically teach what they want. They are making good little protesters out of them until they overthrow the system.

The end game is killing all whites, all people that don't agree with them, and bringing in the police state, but not of law and order or morality, but exactly the opposite-lawlessness and immorality. These are the people that will join the beast when he arises. It will be one big riot, killing, looting fest. This is what the Bible predicts before Jesus comes-lawlessness and killing on a more or less global scale. This is the mystery of lawlessness.

Blood libel - Wikipedia

So I wish to kill people? This is your claim?

 

[Arc F1]

Right. We should stop teaching the US Declaration of Independence, which claims the same thing.

Created equal and staying equal aren't the same.

 

[Arc F1]

The horrors!
“We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal...”

Key word being "created". After that you have to work at it.

 

[Belk]

I wouldn't send my kids to school in this day and age. Unions teach that everyone is equal regardless of output.

So they are not equal in the eyes of God?

 

[Arc F1]

So they are not equal in the eyes of God?

No we aren't all equal in God's eyes.

Maybe I should give an example. Two electricians both make 50hr. One works his butt off and the other one sits around doing nothing. The union sees both the same and both have to be paid the same. You can't reward the one who works harder.

 

[Jimmy D]

I can only think of Marx's theory on the "natural order" of society and the world, that all of history and life itself is defined by the "Oppressor" and thee "Oppressed", in Marx's time he felt it culminated in Bourgeoisie, Capitalist masters and proletarian, worker oppressed, (though he does mention previous modes of oppression in history, such as slave master and slave, feudal Lord and Serf, Imperialist and colonial subject, etc) rather than the "white Privileged and people of colour" thing defined more by "race" (in fact Marx was quite racist himself).

Thanks for taking a stab at it.
a) So is that in the curriculum? Which is what I asked our friend there.

b) Is that such a horrendous thing to teach children about?

 

[Jimmy D]

I haven't made a single thing up. Didn't even post my own comments in the op. Read, find out what the contention concerning Marxism is. I'm not doing the footwork for ya.

My biggest issue is we have politicians writing BLM in the streets. On going BLM riots, and looting. Now schools are working with BLM to create curriculum. Are we really sure there is no left wing agenda here? Where is this all going?

*hint: I actually copied and pasted some of the remarks about Marxism in the op.

Why should I “go and find out”. You’re the one suggesting Marxism is going to be on the curriculum. I ask again what aspects of Marxism are the attempting to indoctrinate children with?

 

[Belk]

No we aren't all equal in God's eyes.

Maybe I should give an example. Two electricians both make 50hr. One works his butt off and the other one sits around doing nothing. The union sees both the same and both have to be paid the same.

As someone who has been in a union I do not find this claim credible. Would you care to rephrase it as something a little less hyperbolic?

You can't reward the one who works harder.

And this is why God does not view us as equal?

 

[Arc F1]

As someone who has been in a union I do not find this claim credible. Would you care to rephrase it as something a little less hyperbolic?


And this is why God does not view us as equal?

Some are void of sin 144,000 some are only good enough. Some will not make it.

For twenty plus years I hired union labor. All pay had to be the same and wasn't based on output. If one man excelled above the others he received nothing for it. I couldn't give one man a raise for being better than the rest.

 

[Belk]

Some are void of sin 144,000 some are only good enough. Some will not make it.

I could of sworn I had a Christian tell me all are equal in the eyes of God. Apparently I was mistaken.

For twenty plus years I hired union labor. All pay had to be the same and wasn't based on output. If one man excelled above the others he received nothing for it. I couldn't give one man a raise for being better than the rest.

As I was mistaken in my understanding of Christianity it seems no longer relevant. Thank you for your response.

 

[Arc F1]

I could of sworn I had a Christian tell me all are equal in the eyes of God. Apparently I was mistaken.


As I was mistaken in my understanding of Christianity it seems no longer relevant. Thank you for your response.

OK.

 

[All Englands Skies]

Thanks for taking a stab at it.
a) So is that in the curriculum? Which is what I asked our friend there.

b) Is that such a horrendous thing to teach children about?

a) I don't think its part of any official curriculum.

b) well there is no harm teaching older children facts about Marxism, however its another thing to enforce a world view upon children, school should be a place to formulate ideas and debate, so they should teach the importance of equality to kids, in fact equality should be one of the most important things to teach kids, but not the flawed concept of privilege theory that in many ways is a spiritual successor to aspects of Marxism in my opinion, which is dogmatic and morphs into its own hatreds. That being said, from what I am led to believe about American schools, they already enforce a worldview and they have been doing so for years, the worldview of patriotism, liked pledging allegiance to the flag, singing about America, etc. So its now hypocritical for those people to talk of indoctrination. I think its more moral to teach about equality than patriotism when it comes to the crunch though.

Honestly, in my own worldview I share many superficial aspects with Marxism, I am pro-worker, pro-strike as a bargaining tool and protest tool, am anti-Capitalist, but follow syndicalism and different forms of Socialism to flawed Marxist fantasy, also I think Marxism simply used unions and Syndicalists for their own ends, once they got power, they sold out Unions and repressed them, Marxist are no friends of Syndicalists, they manipulate us, in fact, I even read how Union and syndicalists such as Solidarity in 1980's Poland and others in Warsaw Pact nations were against the Communist/"Marxist" authorities.

 

[Tanj]

I'm trying to figure out how the murder of George Floyd turn into K-12 curriculum in public schools about gender studies and Black Liberation theology.

I'm trying to work out why "LGBT" appears in the thread title and nowhere else.

What's really going on here?

Life is full of little mysteries, isn't it.

I will say I do like the fear fuelled "reds under the bed, coming for your kids" silly paranoia you are trying to whip up, Very McCarthy-ist of you. Perhaps you should go give some more money to the wall building folks, that sounds like a good solution.

 

[Quartermaine]

Created equal and staying equal aren't the same.

and the constitution spells out that everyone remains equal in the eyes of the law

 

[Quartermaine]

No we aren't all equal in God's eyes.

Maybe I should give an example. Two electricians both make 50hr. One works his butt off and the other one sits around doing nothing. The union sees both the same and both have to be paid the same. You can't reward the one who works harder.

actually unions are and have always been supportive of honest job reviews....as long as the review is about actual job performance

 

[Arc F1]

and the constitution spells out that everyone remains equal in the eyes of the law

Yet we aren't equal under the law. I wish we were but I'm not seeing it.