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Not no but good Lord Almighty No! The shutdown is not acceptable behavior. You don't get to simply take your ball and go home because you did not get your way. You most certainly do not then try to gin up an "Emergency" where none exists simply so you can try to circumvent the rules put in place to stop you.
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At that point it would be armed resistance. I would regard a declaration of martial law over The Wall as an overt attempt to overthrow the Constitution and react accordingly. Trump supporters apparently don't consider how many of us on the left have at one time or another taken an oath to "defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic" and that we take that oath seriously.
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No vote here but the stalemate is a political move that takes two sides to create. And like a filibuster is a tactic that is used. The country is split right down the middle on weather we should have the wall or not. The shutdown can be blamed an both sides since neither side is willing to concede. Martial law should be used when things break down and to this point they have not. In my opinion all of this budged talk is focusing on the wrong crisis and that is the fact that the US is already bankrupt. The 22 trillion in debt we have is already beyond the ability to pay it back. The annual trillion dollar deficit is not sustainable. Martial law will come one day and it will be related to the budget. Prophetically in Rev 6 we see a global situation where peace is taken from the earth that men will kill one another adn a days wage will be a quart of wheat. Jesus said these days come like a snare upon the while earth. The world runs on the dollar and the Antichrist does not get control of the world until only 42 months are left to go and that is when the mark of the beast is rolled out too. It seems the move towards a one world government will utilize a global financial collapse and blame it on greedy capitalist. The Phoenix that will rise out of the ashes will have 10 heads.
A guy was asked how he went bankrupt and he answered a little at a time then all at once. We are waiting for that all at once moment and all the worlds financial systems are intertwined so the contagion will take down everything when the US banking system or dollar collapses. It will be like Venezuela over the while earth.
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evoeth
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Also incorrect. Wall opposition is bigger than wall support, by large margins prior to the shutdown. It's more than 3:2 against the wall right now.
CBS poll:
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The poll found that 37 percent believe a wall is necessary to secure the U.S.-Mexico border from illegal immigration, while 61 percent indicated the border can be secured without it. Those responses were split along partisan lines, with 78 percent of Republican respondents saying a wall is needed, and 90 percent of Democratic respondents saying it is not needed.
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The poll found that 37 percent believe a wall is necessary to secure the U.S.-Mexico border from illegal immigration, while 61 percent indicated the border can be secured without it. Those responses were split along partisan lines, with 78 percent of Republican respondents saying a wall is needed, and 90 percent of Democratic respondents saying it is not needed.
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Can you help us out and explain why anyone would consider declaring martial law when there is no imminent threat to the security of our country? The shutdown is an economic issue, we are not being attacked.
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Why would anyone think that Trump would or could declare martial law over a shutdown. It is beyond ridiculous. There is no reasonable ground for declaring martial law over a few out of work bureaucrats. Declaring martial law is only acceptable IMO in the case of general domestic upheaval i.e. rioting or armed rebellion around the country or legitimate national security i.e. an invasion by a foreign country or in the case of a natural disaster o so l widespread that millions of lives were at risk.
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I say yes because, once the looting and rioting start, when the welfare run out, when that no show work, when law and order breaks down among those who assistance is cut, and government isn't functioning, the president will need to restore calm to the nation, and use emergency powers to get a budget through (including the wall)
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Your argument here suggests that you believe a president should attempt to sabotage the government to consolidate more power for his own personal/policy ambitions. That's what you call a dictator, do you actually believe in a representative democracy with checks and balances? Not getting what you want is part of what democracy is. If you don't get what you want, then you should lobby people to convince them of your idea's necessity. As it stands, Americans do not want a southern border wall, so perhaps you need to move on instead of resorting to being a dictator to push something the country doesn't want.
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