Marriage Covenant

[Denadii]

This is probably in the wrong place....so....Is a married couple married in heaven? How long does the marriage covenant last? Is it an eternal covenant?

 

[Paulos23]

If you are only looking for Christian opinions, you are in the wrong place. All sorts can chime in (like me ).

If so, you will want to go to the Christian Only version of this Forum.

If not, here is my two-bits....

Spoiler: Non-Christian View

I know of no evidence that it would continue past death. For that matter, most marriage vows do say "until death do you part".

 

[Call me Nic]

Matthew 22:30 answers your question.

 

[Dave-W]

Matthew 22:30 answers your question.

Eh - maybe not.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.​

I know many take it to say that existing marriages are dissolved, but the text does not actually say that. "Marry" and "Given in marriage" both refer to a NEW marriage. The Groom marries a bride, and the bride is given to her new groom. That is a new marriage.

It does not address one way or the other on existing marriages.
So in reality, we have no idea if they go on or not.

 

[SPF]

If you're looking for the Christian understanding of life in heaven, I recommend the book Heaven, by Randy Alcorn. It's the single best book published book about heaven that I have ever come across.

 

[bugkiller]

Eh - maybe not.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.​

I know many take it to say that existing marriages are dissolved, but the text does not actually say that. "Marry" and "Given in marriage" both refer to a NEW marriage. The Groom marries a bride, and the bride is given to her new groom. That is a new marriage.

It does not address one way or the other on existing marriages.
So in reality, we have no idea if they go on or not.

Interesting and I agree. But what happens when a surviving spouse remarries?

bugkiller

 

[Dave-W]

Interesting and I agree. But what happens when a surviving spouse remarries?

That indeed is the big question. And since our Lord was asked that specifically and he did not actually answer the question directly; apparently that is not something we need to know in this life.

 

[bugkiller]

That indeed is the big question. And since our Lord was asked that specifically and he did not actually answer the question directly; apparently that is not something we need to know in this life.

I do not think there will be continued marriage in heaven because a spouse may not be a believer.

bugkiller

 

[Sammy-San]

Eh - maybe not.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.​

I know many take it to say that existing marriages are dissolved, but the text does not actually say that. "Marry" and "Given in marriage" both refer to a NEW marriage. The Groom marries a bride, and the bride is given to her new groom. That is a new marriage.

It does not address one way or the other on existing marriages.
So in reality, we have no idea if they go on or not.

What does marry mean exactly? Cain and Abel didnt have a pastor or a rabbi.
13. On the Nature of the Marriage Union

Marriage Is Not Essentially A Sexual Union
The act of sexual intercourse never, in itself, constituted marriage.538 In the Bible, premarital sex, if discovered, led to a forced marriage unless the father of the woman insisted otherwise (539 And the more common term (tame)implies “uncleanness,” an interruption of the wholeness or wholesomeness of life.540Marriage is never typified simply by the sexual act, or even by the idea of “one flesh.”541

It might be argued that a marriage is not final until sexual relations have taken place. Deuteronomy 20:7 speaks of a man who has become engaged to a woman but has not “taken” her yet. The woman is an “unclaimed blessing.” The text reveals that the covenant with her has not been consummated. But the term used (laqah) is not the most common Hebrew word for marriage, and in the Deuteronomic text it may simply be referring to consummation rather than to marriage per se. Beyond this, there are a number of other passages that understand the engaged couple to enjoy the same status before law as those persons in a fully consummated union, though they have not had sexual union.

 

[Dave-W]

What does marry mean exactly? Cain and Abel didnt have a pastor or a rabbi.

Able was killed before he could get married.
Cain was driven away from his parents and God.

Seth would be the one you need to look at, but there is next to no information on him.

 

[Sammy-San]

Able was killed before he could get married.
Cain was driven away from his parents and God.

Seth would be the one you need to look at, but there is next to no information on him.

is it striking i find this such an unclear concept?

 

[Dave-W]

is it striking i find this such an unclear concept?

Not really.

You seem predisposed to look for things in nice tidy packages.
This does not work that way.

 

[Sammy-San]

Not really.

You seem predisposed to look for things in nice tidy packages.
This does not work that way.

Spirits dont marry. so physical intimacy bein possible is needed for the concept of marriage to exist?

 

[Dave-W]

Spirits dont marry. so physical intimacy bein possible is needed for the concept of marriage to exist?

Physical intimacy can exist with out marriage. Happens in the animal world all the time. Marriage is a uniquely human institution.

 

[Sammy-San]

Physical intimacy can exist with out marriage. Happens in the animal world all the time. Marriage is a uniquely human institution.

what does it mean exactly? Same sex Marriage is unbibical even if platonic.

 

[Sammy-San]

Physical intimacy can exist with out marriage. Happens in the animal world all the time. Marriage is a uniquely human institution.

Doesn't a marriage covenant by definition imply the possibility of physical intimacy?

 

[Dave-W]

Doesn't a marriage covenant by definition imply the possibility of physical intimacy?

Of course. Physical intimacy is actually COMMANDED in both testaments.

 

[Sammy-San]

Of course. Physical intimacy is actually COMMANDED in both testaments.

13. On the Nature of the Marriage Union

 

[Dave-W]

13. On the Nature of the Marriage Union

Sam, I told you to stop digging all that stuff up on the internet.

That guy has no clue of the ancient Israelite marriage customs.

 

[Sammy-San]

Sam, I told you to stop digging all that stuff up on the internet.

That guy has no clue of the ancient Israelite marriage customs.

I used to believe these folks.Amightywind deception false prophet teaching truth of the Bible