Mark 16:9-20?

[memoriesbymichelle]

I started my first thread after being a member for a day. I doubt I had many posts at all. I am now a highly experienced thread poster with six or seven threads on several forums. I even have one thread I started on another forum no one has replied to after a month.

I don't see that James Snapp said anything trollish. This isn't the sort of place where where they send the internet police after you if you sometimes post something here but you don't meet certain criteria, but he might not know that. I think he was just saying he was married but please don't send the internet police after him. A visitor might not know right away that we are not usually uptight and nit-picky.

Well I'm not for sending the internet police after him LOL but we aren't moving the thread nor are we starting (well at least I'm not) in the Christian Scriptures section. I went there and I didn't see a thread started. I looked him up and he hasn't started one. It's a mystery I tell ya, but not one I'm fretting over.

 

[James Snapp Jr]

MJ McMillan,

You have not "ticked me off," as you put it. I wonder, however, if you can authoritatively assure me that the moderators here at Christian Forums will have no problem with a married person posting in the Mature Singles section of the forum. I don't want to get underway and spend several hours in a detailed discussion only to have my materials deleted, or to find myself suspended mid-conversation, by a moderator who believes that rules exist to be kept.

Regarding your smells-of-troll comment: that seemed unkind. My reservations emanate from a desire to keep the rules of the Christian Forums website, not to object against them! And my desire to place this subject in a part of the site where it is more likely to be consulted is simply logical.

I hope to start a thread about Mark 16:9-20 in the Christian Scriptures section of the forum within a few days.

Yours in Christ,

James Snapp, Jr.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

Hey James,

We have had people that are younger and married post in this forum without any issues. The issues arise if someone reports it to a MOD. They don't generally come in here and start moderating when it's not necessary. We are an accepting group.

Why don't YOU start the thread over there? Just curious....otherwise IMO feel free to post here

 

[James Snapp Jr]

MemoriesByMichelle,

I have started a thread titled "Mark 16:9-20" in the Christian Scriptures section, in the sub-forum "Exposition and Bible Study." All those here who are curious about this subject are welcome to participate in the discussion.

Yours in Christ,

James Snapp, Jr.

 

[MennoII]

I was passably familiar with the first two, the third I had to look up. The passage in Mark is used in certain parts of West Virginia and Kentucky by an off-shoot Pentecostal group that believes we are commanded (!) to handle serpents, and snake-handling figures big in their worship. It goes without saying that some practitioners have been bitten and died, but-- that's what they're in for. The passage in John is the famous one where Jesus is asked what to do with the woman caught in the act of adultery, and his response is to write in the sand with a stick. The final one, in 1 John--- That, I had to look up. I have a question: Why is that considered a suspect verse? I use the New American Standard, and it doesn't even indicate that this verse is in any way suspect. In fact the rest of scripture backs up that verse 100%, so--- I'm mystified.

About the passage in Mark: Every notation I see on it says the earliest manuscripts don't have it, suggesting it was added later. The same thing is true of the passage in John, seems like it's missing in the earliest manuscripts.

Edit; add-on: I found the problem in 1 John 5:7. I had to look it up in the NIV Study Bible, it has notes that my copy of the NASB lacks. The passage reads "For there are three that testify in heaven: The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one". Now, the problem is that no Greek translation has this before 1600 or thereabouts, so it's an add-on verse. It's found in the Vulgate, and of course any of you who carry the King James bible will be able to find it easily since it's there with no notes to say it shouldn't be.

In the NASB, the same passage reads "And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth".

Cyprian quote I John 5:7 entirely in 250 AD, some one hundred years or more than when it was supposedly added by the apostate Priscillian. If one takes out; For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one. (I John 5:7), I believe we are in danger of denying the witness of God (see I John 5:9). For IMHO, we see God Witness in all four Gospel plus I John 5:7 in the Baptism of Jesus -- Matthew 3:16-17; Mark 1:9-11; Luke 3:21-22.
John 1:31-34
31) And I knew Him not: but that He should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
32) And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon Him.
33) And I knew Him not: but He that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me. Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, the same is He which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
34) And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
In this passage above John the Baptist gives us the Witness of God, for God voice is mention in the other Gospel, but here we see the Baptist stating that God told Him, whom the Spirit descended upon and stayed is the Son of God.
While in John 19:30-37 we see the witness of man, that is John the Apostle witnesses at Calvary, the Spirit being gave up (verse 30), and the blood and the water in verse 34, follow by his record in verse 35.#
I know many will find fault with this argument, but I truly believe it is God witness of Himself that many believers and especially unbelievers will not receive (John 3:11) for no man receiveth His testimony (John 3:32). Remember we are told in I John 5:6; that Jesus came not by water only (His baptism) but by water and blood (His moment of death).

John 3:33
He that hath received His testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. (see also I John 5:10)


I will address the passage in John known also as the Pericope de Adultera, which a simple knowledge of Jewish Festivals; and an Old Testament Prophecies prove beyond a shadow of doubt IMO. After I check to see what James, wrote on Mark 16.

But thanks to everyone for views and answer. Hoping to get some good teaching/learning from him.

 

[MennoII]

So how can Jewish Festivals, help to understand the Pericope de Adultera -- the passage in John 7:53-8:11; because we read in John 7:2 that the Jew Feast of Tabernacle was at hand. This feast also known as Booth, Sukkot last for 7 days (Leviticus 23:33-44; Numbers 29:12-38). Then we read on the last day of the feast that Jesus spoke these words:
37) In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto Me, and drink.
38) He that believeth on Me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39) (But this spake He of the Spirit, which they that believe on Him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given, because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
So what does all of this have to do with anything. Will for one thing many scholar question this passage because verse 53 in John 7 state -- And every man went unto his own house. Yes, one of the biggest objections to this passage is this statement. But because we see it is the last day of the Feast of Booths, (for the Jewish day starts sunset the night before, so that the Sabbath being Saturday, starts at sunset Friday and ends at sunset Saturday), so this night would be the beginning of the Eigth day Assembly (Number 29:35; Leviticus 23:36). So the seven days of Sukkot, the Jews would have slept in their Tabernacles. But on this night they could freely go home because the feast was over. Now that the last verse of John 7 is explained more clearly, this see what Old Testament Prophecy was fulfilled in the remaining verses.

Let us remember that Jesus gave the promises to give any who believe in Him ...rivers of living waters (John 7:38). But we know that most of the Jewish leaders departed from Jesus, especially by laying the trap they had laid for Him (John 8:3-6a). In John 8:6b I believe Jesus wrote these words -- O LORD, the hope of Israel, all that forsake thee shall be ashamed, and they that depart from Me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the Fountain of Living Waters. Jeremiah 17:13 After this they continued to question Jesus, than the second time I believe that He wrote each and every one of these peoples name on the ground (John 8:8). On this 8th Day Assembly the Jews in Jerusalem would have also celebrated the ending and re-beginning of reading of the Torah, in other words they would have read the last passage in Deuteronomy, and start again with reading the first passage in Genesis this is called the Simchat Torah, is this not a picture of Jesus (Revelation 1:8). If I understand right they would have also began to ask for the Blessing of Rain, so Jesus would have been in the Temple explaining to the people about the Holy Ghost and His Living Water. But most of the Jewish leaders had forsaken Jesus.