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Mark 16:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.


What does every creature mean ? What is creature ?

I went to blueletterbible and found the word for creature it's g2937 κτίσις ktisis

This word seem to be used in verses like Mark 10:6
But from the beginning of the creation G2937 God made them male and female.

or Romans 8:20
For the creature G2937 was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

which is later talking about animals in verse 21

Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.


Does that mean that we should preach the gospel to animals aswell ?
Can other creatures like angels be saved ?
 

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Mark 16:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.


What does every creature mean ? What is creature ?

I went to blueletterbible and found the word for creature it's g2937 κτίσις ktisis

This word seem to be used in verses like Mark 10:6
But from the beginning of the creation G2937 God made them male and female.

or Romans 8:20
For the creature G2937 was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

which is later talking about animals in verse 21

Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.


Does that mean that we should preach the gospel to animals aswell ?
Can other creatures like angels be saved ?
My Bible (Revised Standard Version) says, “And he said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation.”
 
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Mark 16:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.


What does every creature mean ? What is creature ?

I went to blueletterbible and found the word for creature it's g2937 κτίσις ktisis

This word seem to be used in verses like Mark 10:6
But from the beginning of the creation G2937 God made them male and female.

or Romans 8:20
For the creature G2937 was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

which is later talking about animals in verse 21

Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.


Does that mean that we should preach the gospel to animals aswell ?
Can other creatures like angels be saved ?
No, creation, other than humans, don't have a conscience (the ability to choose right from wrong) to be saved, but they do instinctively seek their Creator (like Emperor Penguins).

Angels are our servants, they don't need us to save them (preach the gospel to them). They are messengers who actually delivered the good news that the Savior was born. Angels come to minister to us and protect us.
 
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The translations I checked said "the whole creation." Looking at the Greek, that seems to be correct. It would mean the whole world. There's no reason to think anyone other than people are involved.

For some reason our library's link to the OED is broken, but the history at dictionary.com suggests that the meaning of "creature" in the King James may in fact be "creation," rather than the modern meaning.

Of course this passage almost certainly wasn't in the original version of Mark.
 
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No.

No.

Angels don't need to be saved. They've never sinned.
Why do you say that angels have never sinned? I thought Jesus was the only one who never sinned.
 
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No, creation, other than humans, don't have a conscience (the ability to choose right from wrong) to be saved, but they do instinctively seek their Creator (like Emperor Penguins).

Angels are our servants, they don't need us to save them (preach the gospel to them). They are messengers who actually delivered the good news that the Savior was born. Angels come to minister to us and protect us.

There are fallen angels which did not kept thier first estate whatever it was . Jude 1:6
 
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Why do you say that angels have never sinned? I thought Jesus was the only one who never sinned.

Jesus is/was the only man who never sinned.

Fallen angels or demons are those who sinned and were cast out of heaven.

Angels are holy, have never sinned, and serve God night and day in heaven.
 
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2 Peter 2:4

This verse refers to the angels who followed Satan, sinned and became demons or fallen angels. Thus verse does not refer to all angels, just those who sinned.
 
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Mark 16:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

What does every creature mean ? What is creature ?

I went to blueletterbible and found the word for creature it's g2937 κτίσις ktisis

This word seem to be used in verses like Mark 10:6
But from the beginning of the creation G2937 God made them male and female.

or Romans 8:20
For the creature G2937 was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
which is later talking about animals in verse 21

Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Does that mean that we should preach the gospel to animals aswell ?
Can other creatures like angels be saved ?
My Bible (Revised Standard Version) says, “And he said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation.”
The translations I checked said "the whole creation." Looking at the Greek, that seems to be correct. It would mean the whole world. There's no reason to think anyone other than people are involved.

For some reason our library's link to the OED is broken, but the history at dictionary.com suggests that the meaning of "creature" in the King James may in fact be "creation," rather than the modern meaning.

Of course this passage almost certainly wasn't in the original version of Mark.
Good posts.
I would say those are a better rendering.

It is used 1 time in Revelation:

Revelation 3:
14 ‘And to the Messenger of the Assembly in Laodicea write!
These things is saying the Amen, the Witness — the Faithful and the truthful One —
and the Chief of the creation<2937> of the God;

However there are different forms of that word, the main root word being #2936.
I can look those up and see where they are used in Revelation

2936. ktizo ktid'-zo probably akin to 2932 (through the idea of proprietorship of the manufacturer); to fabricate, i.e. found (form originally):--create, Creator, make.
2937. ktisis ktis'-is from 2936; original formation (properly, the act; by implication, the thing, literally or figuratively):--building, creation, creature, ordinance. 2938. ktisma ktis'-mah from 2936; an original formation (concretely), i.e. product (created thing):--creature.
2939. ktistes ktis-tace' from 2936; a founder, i.e. God (as author of all things):--Creator.

#G2936:

Revelation 4:11
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created G2936 all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. G2936
Revelation 10:6

And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created G2936 heaven, and the things that therein are,.......................

#G2938:

Revelation 5:13

And every creature/creation G2938 which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying,
"Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever."
Revelation 8:9
And the third part of the creatures/creation G2938 which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

#2939: [1 time used]

1Peter 4:19
Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. G2939

In Revelation 'creatures" it is used mainly in relation to the "4 living creatures", tho the greek word simply means "living one"

2226. zoon dzo'-on neuter of a derivative of 2198; a live thing, i.e. an animal:--beast.

#G2226

NKJV:
Revelation 4:6
Before the throne there was[fn] a sea of glass, like crystal.
And in the midst of the throne, and around the throne, were four living creatures<2226>full of eyes in front and in back
NASB
Revelation 4:6
and before the throne there was something like a sea of glass, like crystal; and in the [fn]center and around the throne, four living creatures <2226>full of eyes in front and behind.

Revelation 4:7
and the first living creature [is] like a lion, and the second living creature [is] like a calf, and the third living creature hath the face as a man, and the fourth living creature [is] like an eagle flying.


Which goes back to Ezekiel:

#H2416

Ezekiel 1:
5
Also from within it came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had the likeness of a man.
10
As to the likeness of their faces, the face of a man, and the face of a lion, toward the right [are] to them four, and the face of an ox on the left [are] to them four, and the face of an eagle [are] to them four.
 
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I most certainly have declared the good news of salvation to my pets, making it clear that we are being saved every day by the Lord. This does not mean that I said that the pets should take up their cross and be saved the same as man is but that I told them that man is saved! And this is a matter of great joy which should be told to everyone. Even the trees of the field and the grass praise God for his glorious works to the children of man.
 
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I most certainly have declared the good news of salvation to my pets, making it clear that we are being saved every day by the Lord. This does not mean that I said that the pets should take up their cross and be saved the same as man is but that I told them that man is saved! And this is a matter of great joy which should be told to everyone. Even the trees of the field and the grass praise God for his glorious works to the children of man.

I'd like to have my pets in heaven aswell :nooo:
 
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Jesus is/was the only man who never sinned.

Fallen angels or demons are those who sinned and were cast out of heaven.

Angels are holy, have never sinned, and serve God night and day in heaven.
How do we know that angels have never sinned?
 
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*snip*.......
Of course this passage almost certainly wasn't in the original version of Mark.
I wasn't aware of that. Do you have source?
 
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I wasn't aware of that. Do you have source?
Here's a good summary, from Tekton (which is a well-known conservative apologetics site): http://www.tektonics.org/lp/markend.php.

Note that this doesn't necessarily affect its canonical status. E.g. it is virtually certain that the story of the adultress in John 8 was not in the original of John. However I would still consider it canonical.

With Mark it's more complex because there are two different added endings (well, three if you count the Freer Logion which sometimes appears in the longer ending), and they come in varying versions. The contents generally duplicate things present in other Gospels. So it's a bit hard to know just which to include. But since canonical really just means that the Church uses it, one might reasonably accept the traditional text, which is the longer ending. However evangelicals committed to the accuracy specifically of the original manuscripts probably shouldn't use anything beyond 16:8. I wouldn't generally cite anything beyond 16:8 either.
 
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Here's a good summary, from Tekton (which is a well-known conservative apologetics site): http://www.tektonics.org/lp/markend.php.

Note that this doesn't necessarily affect its canonical status. E.g. it is virtually certain that the story of the adultress in John 8 was not in the original of John. However I would still consider it canonical.
Thks for the info.
I didn't get a response to my post on whether or not I and/or others answered her question in the OP to her satisfaction, or if she has anymore questions concerning "creature/creation".
I did spend a lot of time on that post.

Happy 4th........
 
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Both the Father and Jesus call the angels who are in heaven holy. Why would you think they had sinned?
What about these angels? Evidently they must have been holy to be up there, but then they are cast down to the earth. Why

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Rev 12:7
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon;
and the dragon and his angels fought,
8
but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
9
So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world;
he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
 
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What about these angels? Evidently they must have been holy to be up there, but then they are cast down to the earth. Why

NKJV)
Rev 12:7
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon;
and the dragon and his angels fought,
8
but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
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So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world;
he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

That's talking about the fallen angels who sinned, now called demons. They were cast out with Satan to the Earth.
 
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