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Mark 10:11-12 On Divorce

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Here's the verse from Mark 10:11-12 from NASB:

11 And He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; 12 and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.”

When my wife and I met we were both married and had an adulterous affair. We both divorced our spouses and married each other.

Jesus spoke these words. He said "commits" and "is committing" adultery. He didn't say "committed" adultery.

If he said "committed" adultery then we could ask for forgiveness and be forgiven. However, he said "commits" and "is committing".

Doesn't this mean that we are living in sin together? Should we divorce and live lives of celibacy until we are glorified?

Please don't be nice, I'm just look for a Biblical answer.
 

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Here's the verse from Mark 10:11-12 from NASB:

11 And He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; 12 and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.”

When my wife and I met we were both married and had an adulterous affair. We both divorced our spouses and married each other.

Jesus spoke these words. He said "commits" and "is committing" adultery. He didn't say "committed" adultery.

If he said "committed" adultery then we could ask for forgiveness and be forgiven. However, he said "commits" and "is committing".

Doesn't this mean that we are living in sin together? Should we divorce and live lives of celibacy until we are glorified?

Please don't be nice, I'm just look for a Biblical answer.

My opinion and I have a RC background, but what is done is done, now you need to repent and move on. I'm not sure what you mean glorified, in the RCC you both need annulments if married in it and those are not easy to get. Life is full of mistakes, and we need to repent, turn and move on , make the best marriage you can now, and take care of the kids from the previous marriages if there were any. Or talk to you Priest or Pastor.
 
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Here's the verse from Mark 10:11-12 from NASB:

11 And He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; 12 and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.”

When my wife and I met we were both married and had an adulterous affair. We both divorced our spouses and married each other.

Jesus spoke these words. He said "commits" and "is committing" adultery. He didn't say "committed" adultery.

If he said "committed" adultery then we could ask for forgiveness and be forgiven. However, he said "commits" and "is committing".

Doesn't this mean that we are living in sin together? Should we divorce and live lives of celibacy until we are glorified?

Please don't be nice, I'm just look for a Biblical answer.
This I know...

You didn't say whether you and your wife were believers at the time you two committed what we know is serious sin.

When we're believers and we willfully sin against God, I think it's more serious.

In either case though if both of you have repented there's no perpetual sin going on because when God forgives you He remembers it no more. There's always consequences to sin though.

What Jesus was doing in the passage you refer to is revealing how God feels toward wrongful divorce.

In that time setting the men of Israel were divorcing their wives for very trivial reasons and the Pharisees and Sadducees were condoning it. Women were being treated with willful disregard and we have to understand in that society they were forcing divorced women into poverty because in that time divorced women were like the plague!

Jesus was setting them straight, and as we read it He's setting us straight about it too. Marriage is sacred.

There are those who would say you should divorce your wife and go back to your first wife, but we don't find that example anywhere in scripture.

I would say if you two have repented to God, you move on determined to honor God in your marriage...and be thankful for God's forgiveness.
 
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Excuse but then Deut talking about divorce as nothing to about adultery. Also look into Hebrew. Put away is what is talked about not divorce for put away and divorce aren't the same thing . Like at Deut She got divorce by her husband to become a another man's wife

The first mention of divorce is found in Deuteronomy 24:1,2 , “When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.”

Jesus teaching on divorce -

When you understand the difference between the Hebrew words “keriythuwth” (divorce) and “shalach” (the putting out or sending forth), then you can fully understand Jesus teaching on divorce in Matthew chapter five.

In Matthew 5:31 Jesus said, “It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement.” He is obviously quoting from Deut 24:1 when He mentions the two different components of divorce.

The phrase “put away” is the Greek #630 “apoluo” and means to send away, to dismiss, to depart; and corresponds precisely to the Hebrew word “shalach” which means to send out, to send away. Jesus was obviously referring to the second component of divorce.

The phrase “a writing of divorcement” is the Greek #647 “apostasion” which means a bill of divorce; corresponding perfectly to the Hebrew word “keriythuwth.”

Then Jesus said in the next verse, “But I say unto you, that whoever shall put away (apoluo - to send forth) his wife, saving for the cause of fornication; causeth her to commit adultery; and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced (apoluo - to send forth, to put away) committeth adultery.”

Notice that the Greek word translated “divorce” in Matthew 5:31 is not “apostasion” (divorce) but rather “apoluo” (to send or put away).

Jesus did not say that whosoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. What He did say was that whosoever marries a woman that has been separated from her husband without a legal bill of divorcement commits adultery; because she is still legally and officially married to her estranged husband.

Jesus taught the same thing in Luke 16:18, “Whosoever putting away (apoluo - to send forth) his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery; and whosoever marrieth her that is put away (apoluo - to send forth) from her husband commiteth adultery.”

Again, in Mark 10:11,12 Jesus taught, “...whosoever shall put away (apoluo - to send forth) his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away (apoluo - to send forth) her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.”

In every instance, Jesus is referring to people who are merely separated from their spouse and not legally divorced.

God would have done adultery for he divorce Israel. Not only that look at the bible closer because adultery was death not divorce death .

http://www.brutallyhonest.org/bruta...sconceptions About Divorce and Remarriage.pdf

A man must write his wife a divorce bill and send him out of his home for they are no longer husband and wife. Again deut said enough on adultery for adultery for death.

Put away is used 13 times for marriage and it never as yto do with divorce

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Excuse but then Deut talking about divorce as nothing to about adultery. Also look into Hebrew. Put away is what is talked about not divorce for put away and divorce aren't the same thing . Like at Deut She got divorce by her husband to become a another man's wife

The first mention of divorce is found in Deuteronomy 24:1,2 , “When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.”

Jesus teaching on divorce -

When you understand the difference between the Hebrew words “keriythuwth” (divorce) and “shalach” (the putting out or sending forth), then you can fully understand Jesus teaching on divorce in Matthew chapter five.

In Matthew 5:31 Jesus said, “It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement.” He is obviously quoting from Deut 24:1 when He mentions the two different components of divorce.

The phrase “put away” is the Greek #630 “apoluo” and means to send away, to dismiss, to depart; and corresponds precisely to the Hebrew word “shalach” which means to send out, to send away. Jesus was obviously referring to the second component of divorce.

The phrase “a writing of divorcement” is the Greek #647 “apostasion” which means a bill of divorce; corresponding perfectly to the Hebrew word “keriythuwth.”

Then Jesus said in the next verse, “But I say unto you, that whoever shall put away (apoluo - to send forth) his wife, saving for the cause of fornication; causeth her to commit adultery; and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced (apoluo - to send forth, to put away) committeth adultery.”

Notice that the Greek word translated “divorce” in Matthew 5:31 is not “apostasion” (divorce) but rather “apoluo” (to send or put away).

Jesus did not say that whosoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. What He did say was that whosoever marries a woman that has been separated from her husband without a legal bill of divorcement commits adultery; because she is still legally and officially married to her estranged husband.

Jesus taught the same thing in Luke 16:18, “Whosoever putting away (apoluo - to send forth) his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery; and whosoever marrieth her that is put away (apoluo - to send forth) from her husband commiteth adultery.”

Again, in Mark 10:11,12 Jesus taught, “...whosoever shall put away (apoluo - to send forth) his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away (apoluo - to send forth) her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.”

In every instance, Jesus is referring to people who are merely separated from their spouse and not legally divorced.

God would have done adultery for he divorce Israel. Not only that look at the bible closer because adultery was death not divorce death .

http://www.brutallyhonest.org/bruta...sconceptions About Divorce and Remarriage.pdf

A man must write his wife a divorce bill and send him out of his home for they are no longer husband and wife. Again deut said enough on adultery for adultery for death.

Put away is used 13 times for marriage and it never as yto do with divorce

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I think you ought to take another look.
When you look at Deuteronomy you're not acknowledging the full statement.
Deut 24:1
“When a man takes a wife and marries her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out from his house,

You must determine what is meant by "some indecency in her". When you look that up it means she has "exposed her nakedness improperly" as when one commits adultery.

"Indecency" is the Hebrew word "`ervah", which is translated "indecency"

Here's a link to the meaning:
Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon

What you find is that it's not simply the act of adultery but even more it's about the sacredness of the marriage union. A married woman is only to expose her body to her husband, and no one else.

Jesus took it a step further. You have committed adultery in just fantasizing about another woman in your heart. So Jesus raised the bar for all intensive purposes.

The scripture is consistent.
 
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You are committing adultery right now. Jesus said divorce was ok in cases of adultery and abandonment. You were at fault in the adultery aspect and only your wife had the right to divorce you. You did not have the right to divorce her.

You do not need to divorce your current wife because in gods eyes you are not married to her. So you can still be with her but you need to be celibate to avoid adultery. So if you enjoy being with her then just legally stay married because it is more beneficial than being single.
 
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But Jesus also allowed remarriage . He said any man he out away his wife as sin. Not only that but Paul himself said you shouldn't be celibate when married. He kept telling people if you can't be celibate than its best to marriage. Also Paul said if you are loose , seek not a wife but if you have seek a wife you have not sinned. Even Paul said it was okay to remarried. Adultery is death not divorce. Again divorce as nothing to do with adultery for adultery equal death. The Deut woman is free to remarry.

Jewish law of Divorce

1. Man writes divorce bill

2.Two gives it to his wife

3. Sends her out

Men were sending their wives out without divorce bills.

“Divorce” and “Send Her Out”
The terms “divorce” and “send her out” (also translated “put away”) must be properly differentiated to clear up mistaken notions about divorce and remarriage. The Hebrew word keriythuwth translated “divorce” in Deuteronomy 24:1 is found in only two other locations: Isaiah 50:1, which describes Yahweh’s future divorce of the House of Judah, and Jeremiah 3:8, which describes Yahweh’s past divorce of the House of Israel. Keriythuwth, translated “divorce,” is a specific term, and in all three instances it is used in conjunction with the term “bill,” “writ” or “certificate.” On the other hand, the Hebrew word shalach, translated “send her out” or “put away,” is a common term used nearly one thousand times in the Old Testament. While it is true that the term “put away” – the final step in the divorce process – is sometimes used to represent divorce, women can and often were put away without being divorced.
Malachi 2
The Hebrew word for divorce – keriythuwth – is not the word Yahweh chose to use in Malachi 2:16. Instead, Malachi was inspired to use the Hebrew word shalach. Keriythuwth and shalach are not always interchangeable. A woman cannot be divorced without being put away, but she can be put away without being divorced. The Prophet Malachi was addressing the latter condition:
...you [men of the House of Judah] cover the altar of YHWH with tears ... because He no longer regards the offering or accepts it with favor from your hand. Yet you say, “For what reason?” Because YHWH has been a witness between you and the wife of your youth, against whom you have dealt treacherously, though she is your companion and your wife by covenant. (Malachi 2:13-14, NASB)
Note that the women in this situation were still considered to be wives by covenant with their husbands. They had never been lawfully divorced. The New American Standard Bible translates the Hebrew word shalach as “divorce”:
...Take heed then, to your spirit, and let no one deal treacherously against the wife of your youth. For I hate divorce, says YHWH, the God of Israel.... (Malachi 2:15-16, NASB)
The King James Version correctly translates shalach as “putting away”:
For YHWH, the God of Israel saith that He hateth putting away....
Yahweh is not the author of confusion. Because divorce is a lawful dissolution of marriage, it cannot be the treachery described in Malachi. If it were, Yahweh promoted treachery when He made provisions for divorce in Deuteronomy 24. Additionally, Yahweh Himself would be guilty of treachery because He divorced His wife Israel.
The treachery committed by those Judahite men was not in divorcing their wives, but rather in putting away their wives without the certificate of divorce required in Deuteronomy 24 (something still very common in the land of Israel today as reported on NPR in 2003). Consequently, these put away – but not divorced – women could not seek another husband without committing adultery.
In their vindictiveness, these husbands were forcing their wives into a deplorable predicament. If one of these women “married” or attached herself to another man, she would have been an adulterer and subject to stoning, and any man who married her would also have committed adultery. By law, without a certificate of divorce, she was still married to her first husband.
A “put-away” woman would be left to provide for herself, a nearly impossible feat under the conditions of that time. No doubt, some women felt they had no choice but to resort to prostitution in order to provide for themselves and their children. One can understand why Yahweh hated the treachery these hardhearted men committed against their wives. It was for this reason that Yahweh provided for lawful divorce:
The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away [divorce] his wife for every cause [as implied in Deuteronomy 24]? And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away [divorce] your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. (Matthew 19:3-8)11
 
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Put away is not divorce . The only problem is that women had no right to divorce their husbands in 1 century. The husbands would kick them out without a divorce bill making them still legal married. Anyone who married her would sin for she was still married to her husband. Both would be stoned to death. Again shalach is used 13 times for marriage and it is never translate divorce. For it doesn't mean divorce.
 
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When Jesus Died he died for all your future sins..(all YOUR sins were in the future, since you had not yet been born) If adultery is one of em..then it is. You are forgiven-no futher action need be taken..Live Happily
 
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Because much of modern Christianity has rejected Yahweh’s perfect law (Psalm 19:7-9) and because the Hebrew words pertaining to this subject have been misunderstood, divorce and remarriage have been misconstrued. Mistranslation has also occurred in some key passages in the New Testament Scriptures.
Both divorce and remarriage are permitted according to Yahweh’s law:
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man’s wife. And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before YHWH: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which YHWH thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. (Deuteronomy 24:1-4)12
Keeping in mind what we have learned from the Old Testament, let us now see if we can make sense of Yeshua’s New Testament statements regarding this subject.
As already pointed out, the Hebrew words translated “divorce” and “send her out” in Deuteronomy 24 mean two different things. The same is true of the corresponding Greek words in the New Testament. The Greek word for “put away” is apoluo, whereas the Greek word for “divorce” is apostasion. With this in mind, let us examine Yeshua’s instructions on divorce and remarriage in Matthew 5 in the New American Standard Bible:
And it was said [in Deuteronomy 24:1], “Whoever divorces [apolusee – puts away] his wife, let him give her a certificate of dismissal” [apostasion – divorce]; but I say to you that everyone who divorces [apoluoon – puts away] his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced [apolelumenee – put away] woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:31-32, NASB)
Even though the King James Bible rendered these two verses more correctly, its translation still leaves something to be desired:
It hath been said [in Deuteronomy 24:1], Whosoever shall put away [apolusee] his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement [apostasion].... (Matthew 5:31)
In this verse, Yeshua was quoting Deuteronomy 24:1, which declares that if a man puts away his wife, he is required to give her a certificate of divorce. The King James Version continues:
…but I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away [apoluoon] his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery; and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced [apolelumeneen – put away] committeth adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
In the latter part of verse 32, both the New American Standard and King James translators have Yeshua declaring that: “whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” This cannot be correct because Deuteronomy 24:1-4 gives a lawfully divorced woman the right to remarry. Either the translators are in error or Yeshua is a heretic for having altered Yahweh’s law.

Again putting away is the sin unless its fornication. Once again put away is not divorce for the Jewish Law states a man must write the divorce bill and give it to her and send her out. By if its fornication he does not because she broke the marriage otah. Once again Ezra women were put away but not divorce for there are not verse that the men wrote the bill of divorce

Again this is what Jesus was talking not divorce but putting away. Men were putting way their wives for whatever reason. They could only put away their wives if it was fornication
At first glance, Yeshua’s statement in Matthew 5:32 – “saving for the cause of fornication” – appears to be in conflict with the previous interpretation. But when understood correctly, it, too, fits perfectly with Yahweh’s law on divorce.
The New American Standard Bible renders the clause:
…except for the cause of unchastity….
The King James Version renders the same clause much better:
…saving for the cause of fornication….
The word “fornication” is translated from the Greek word porneias. Following is a list of acts described by the Greek word porneias and the closely related word ekporneusasai:
Incest – 1 Corinthians 5:1
Harlotry or prostitution – 1 Corinthians 6:13-18, 10:8
Forbidden lineage and interracial relationships – Hebrews 12:1614
Homosexuality – Jude 1:7
Although not specifically mentioned as porneias in the New Testament, the following three immoral acts are also fornication:
Bestiality – Leviticus 20:15-16
“Remarriage” to a divorced wife you divorced after another man has married and divorced her – Deuteronomy 24:1-4
“Marriage” to a woman unlawfully divorced (put away without a certificate of divorce) – Deuteronomy 24:1-2; Matthew 5:32
Yeshua in Perfect Concert with Yahweh’s Laws
How do these acts of fornication relate to Yeshua’s declaration in Matthew 5:31-32? In Matthew 5 Yeshua was not condemning divorce, but rather the putting away of a wife without a bill of divorcement. Matthew 5:31-32 should have been translated as follows. I have inserted the Greek words and some acts of fornication for clarification:
It hath been said [in Deuteronomy 24:1], Whosoever shall put away [apolusee] his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement [apostasion]: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away [apoluoon] his wife [without a writing of divorcement], saving for the cause of fornication [incest, prostitution, forbidden lineage, and interracial relationships], causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is [not divorced but only] put away [apolelumeneen], committeth adultery. (Matthew 5:31-32)
Deuteronomy 24:1 forbids a man from putting away his lawful wife without a certificate of divorce. But, a divorce certificate is not required if the union is porneias, or fornication. Such relationships are not lawful marriages and do not require a divorce certificate.
Yahweh is the author of marriage (Genesis 2:18, 21-24), and only He can legitimize a relationship as a marriage. The unions listed above are unlawful unions, not lawful marriages. This is why a man can put away these porneias partners without having to provide them with a certificate of divorce. In these instances, a bill of divorcement is not obligatory because, from Yahweh’s perspective, none of these relationships constitute a lawful marriage. These unlawful relationships require only repentance and the putting away of the unlawful partner – thus the exception clause “saving for the cause of fornication.”
We find precedent for this in Ezra 9 and 10:
And Shechaniah … answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken strange wives of the people of the land…. Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law. (Ezra 10:2-3)
Nowhere in these two chapters is a certificate of divorce required for the Judahites to put away their foreign, non-Israelite wives. The following passage provides the reason why a writ of divorcement was unnecessary:
...The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands ... even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites. For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands.... (Ezra 9:1-2)
 
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Here's the verse from Mark 10:11-12 from NASB:

11 And He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; 12 and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.”

When my wife and I met we were both married and had an adulterous affair. We both divorced our spouses and married each other.

Jesus spoke these words. He said "commits" and "is committing" adultery. He didn't say "committed" adultery.

If he said "committed" adultery then we could ask for forgiveness and be forgiven. However, he said "commits" and "is committing".

Doesn't this mean that we are living in sin together? Should we divorce and live lives of celibacy until we are glorified?

Please don't be nice, I'm just look for a Biblical answer.

Paul talks on marriage in 1 Corinthians 7 and deals with some of the issues involving marriage. He says in verse 17 "Only, as the Lord has assigned to each one, as God has called each, in this manner let him walk.." being "called" here is when you become a Christian. If I am assuming correctly that you were not yet "called" when this affair took place and then you married you then should remain how you are called meaning you should remain married.

However such matters are complicated and the answer can be different with different cases. What God desires is reconciliation between the offending parties and whatever the action this should be the end goal. If you feel either one of you can be reconciled back to your former spouses in marriage then you should consider such action. What may make a stronger case for this is if this situation is relatively short or if you do not have any children with your new spouse not to mention your former spouse also has not remarried. If you do have children with the new spouse, the situation has been long passed, or your former spouses has remarried then I would should leave things how they are. What is important is that you talk to your former spouses and seek forgiveness and allow them to help you make the right choice.
 
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The fact is that Even if you were unbelievers when you both left your partners and married each other, it is sin nonetheless.

Marriage is so sacred to God that He said that Whatsoever God had joined together, let no man put asunder.

So, if you are leaving now when you now realized the truth of God's word.You need to obey God rather than you own rational thoughts or decisions.

What you need do is separate from her.Because if you keep living together, you are committing adultery.Though it may be tough to do.Since you did this because of hardness of your heart, you then have to bear the pains that comes with obeying God word now.

Try and see if you can sort things out with your wife and God helping, you can restore your relationship.If she is then married as well.Then,she too is involved in an adulterous affair.

However, you will need the help of your pastor to set things right. If you had sincerely repented and want to make amends,then God will give you strength to the whole hog.

Even in case of catching your real wife in adultery,you can't divorce her.

Many misinterpret the saying Of Jesus that one can divorce based on adultery.But there is more that.

Take the bold step,If any man will follow Christ, you must be ready and willing to deny self, take the cross and then follow Him.

No pain.No gain.
 
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Excuse but then Deut talking about divorce as nothing to about adultery. Also look into Hebrew. Put away is what is talked about not divorce for put away and divorce aren't the same thing . Like at Deut She got divorce by her husband to become a another man's wife

The first mention of divorce is found in Deuteronomy 24:1,2 , “When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.”

Jesus teaching on divorce -

When you understand the difference between the Hebrew words “keriythuwth” (divorce) and “shalach” (the putting out or sending forth), then you can fully understand Jesus teaching on divorce in Matthew chapter five.

In Matthew 5:31 Jesus said, “It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement.” He is obviously quoting from Deut 24:1 when He mentions the two different components of divorce.

Again if marrying an divorce woman is a sin then you must reject deut for it give the woman a right to become a another man's wife. Jesus did not change god's law or divorce and Paul didn't even

I believe the very next verse derails what you say that Jesus has taught.

Matthew 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Jesus made the reference as you had said to Deuteronomy 24:1-2, but He raised the bar as to what the New Covenant shall entail.

He gives another example in Matthew 5:33-37 of referring to the old law of how Jews practised in performing their oaths but declared not to make oaths at all, not even by swearing which some of the Jews had done to declare the sincerity of finishing that oath. Jesus said it was of evil now because we are not under the law to effect changes in us in doing God's work in us. Only God can do God's work in us which is why the just shall live by faith which is what Matthew 5:36 was refering to as we cannot make one hair white or black.

So making a promise or a commitment to follow Him is of the flesh whereas living by faith in Him & all His promises to us that He will enable us to follow Him is how we get to know Him & the power of His resurrection when we see Him living in us for us to be living the christian life.

So Jesus reference to divorcing the spouse and marrying a divorced spouse as committing adultery now is to point out the necessity to acknowledge that as a sin against God in need of forgiveness, and for those that are contemplating a divorce, to go before that throne of grace for help to have the love of Christ to love one another as they ought to.

Paul gave the guideline to be seperated, and by praying and fasting to come together again lesthe devil tempt the couple with their incontency.

1 Corinthians 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

Here is a commandment from the Lord.

10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: 11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

In the event of an unbelieving spouse: Paul speaks and not the Lord:

12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. 13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. 16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife? 17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.

Verse 15 would suggest that when it comes to both believing spouse, the marriage bondage remains.

What happens to those that have divorced and remarried?

Hebrews 13:3 Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body. 4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. 5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

Not my place to judge. That does not mean they are not saved. God will judge His children.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

I do wonder how God will judge those that breaks one of the least commandments BUT do not teach others so as a form of repentance, but we shall see, but at no time am I advocating using God's grace to sin.

For those going through difficult times in their marriage, best turn to the One that joined them together.

Philippians 4:11 Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content. 12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. 13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

1 Peter 2:19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God. 21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: 24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
 
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Here's the verse from Mark 10:11-12 from NASB:

11 And He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; 12 and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.”

When my wife and I met we were both married and had an adulterous affair. We both divorced our spouses and married each other.

Jesus spoke these words. He said "commits" and "is committing" adultery. He didn't say "committed" adultery.

If he said "committed" adultery then we could ask for forgiveness and be forgiven. However, he said "commits" and "is committing".

Doesn't this mean that we are living in sin together? Should we divorce and live lives of celibacy until we are glorified?

Please don't be nice, I'm just look for a Biblical answer.

Hi peakdixon,

I promise you I won't sugar coat it. Yes, you are a sinner! But so am I. Not to brag but I've been married 4 times. Now, your goal is to love God with all your heart, strength and spirit and trust that that's why Jesus had to die. And every day you should be especially mindful and thankful that he died for all of that.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted
 
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