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Gods word became Flesh.
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Gods word became Flesh.more importantly than sending His word, God sent His Word -- and the Word cannot be contained within a book.
Yes, they do. The only difference their own interpretations and beliefs are that their safest bet is to follow the teachings of their Church.
The Part of where you stated that the church is Christ? I didn't want to assume anything.I just wanted you to explain what you actually mean by this.
we don't rely on ourselves. We rely on the written word of God. For Gods word is His prefect law. His word is His precepts. His word has been tested and proven. Here is what King David said.So following 2000 years of Tradition and teachings is worse then relying on yourself? how is that the EOC is in Communion and agreement on everything Doctrinal, and yet the "self interpreter's" disagree on evreything? SI's claim to be "led by the Spirit", but yet the Spirit tell's them all different things..hmm..
How can a young man keep his way pure? By keeping it according to Your word.
I shall delight in Your statutes; I shall not forget Your word.
My soul weeps because of grief; Strengthen me according to Your word.
Show me in scriptue where the church is Christ please. The church is Christ bride and body. But there is only one Christ. We all are ambassadors of Christ.Like I said, that explains alot..do I really need to explain this to you? It is clearly in Scripure...
Why do you continue to cite Scritpure that speaks of His Word which actually means everything He said to us whether by Preaching or in the Bible as if your making a case here in defending Sola Scritpure? That's like saying when Jesus spoke it was not His Word until He wrote it down.we don't rely on ourselves. We rely on the written word of God. For Gods word is His prefect law. His word is His precepts. His word has been tested and proven. Here is what King David said.
If you are following wrong or false teachings, it does not matter who your are relying on. The age of the teaching does not establish it as truth. God must allow somehow that individuals are individually able to discern the truth, if not how would such a loving God hold us accountable for things of which we know no better?So following 2000 years of Tradition and teachings is worse then relying on yourself?
It's not and we don't. Just because you operate according to such myths on a daily basis, don't expect the rest of us to do the same.how is that the EOC is in Communion and agreement on everything Doctrinal, and yet the "self interpreter's" disagree on evreything?
And?SI's claim to be "led by the Spirit", but yet the Spirit tell's them all different things..hmm..
Racer, are you saying that you at the present time, have this gift of discernment and know for a fact that when other Bible alone believers are preaching doctrine that conflict with yours, that they are 100 percent wrong and you are 100 percent right?If you are following wrong or false teachings, it does not matter who your are relying on. The age of the teaching does not establish it as truth. God must allow somehow that individuals are individually able to discern the truth, if not how would such a loving God hold us accountable for things of which we know no better?
What I'm saying is exactly what I said. I'm no scholar and what I said is pretty strait forward. I am not responsible for any incorrect inferences you've made. What I said in no way means, resembles or even implies the twisted comment you've posted above.Racer, are you saying that you at the present time, have this gift of discernment and know for a fact that when other Bible alone believers are preaching doctrine that conflict with yours, that they are 100 percent wrong and you are 100 percent right?
Because God had men pen His word. We see this in the OT we see it in the NT. God is faithful my friend. He does not change as the turning of the moon. He is a stable rock. One we can put our Hope in. He had men write down His word and precepts.Why do you continue to cite Scritpure that speaks of His Word which actually means everything He said to us whether by Preaching or in the Bible as if your making a case here in defending Sola Scritpure? That's like saying when Jesus spoke it was not His Word until He wrote it down.
We see in the New Testament God gave us His Apostles to teach and preach before a pen even hit the paper. We also see men like Moses or Aaron leading the People and keeping them in check and not Scripture alone. If the writings only were to be so important, don't you think God Himself would have made sure to clarify this throughout over and over in His New Testament? Don't you think Jesus would have at least made one command to the Apostles to write. But He didn't did He.Because God had men pen His word. We see this in the OT we see it in the NT. God is faithful my friend.He does not change as the turning of the moon. He is a stable rock. One we can put our Hope in. He had men write down His word and precepts.
And we also see in the OT that men taught a preached before it was all written. But the thing is that is was written. This was so every generation could have Gods word. To hide in our hearts. This is why the word was written. John tells us why he wrote.We see in the New Testament God gave us His Apostles to teach and preach before a pen even hit the paper. We also see men like Moses or Aaron leading the People and keeping them in check and not Scripture alone. If the writings only were to be so important, don't you think God Himself would have made sure to clarify this throughout over and over in His New Testament? Don't you think Jesus would have at least made one command to the Apostles to write. But He didn't did He.
I'm getting tired of going in circles over and over here cause that is all we seem to be doing.
Jn 2:21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it, and because no lie is of the truth.
1Jn 2:14 I have written to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one
1Jn 2:24 As for you, let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father.
1Jn 2:25 This is the promise which He Himself made to us: eternal life.
1Jn 2:26 These things I have written to you concerning those who are trying to deceive you.
1Jn 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.
Don't you find it odd that the Jews (minus the Holy Spirit) had nowhere near the denomination splintering your Bible alone has brought you guys. Makes one go "hmmmmmmmm".And we also see in the OT that men taught a preached before it was all written. But the thing is that is was written. This was so every generation could have Gods word.
That's your tradition speaking. You were taught this and it's tough to see another side at the moment. It may come one day when you do start to ponder on your Bible alone dogma. Not saying you will but I wouldn't write you off just yet. God's Will is done on His time and not ours.I say hmmmmmmmmmm to alot of things......not about the Bible though...
and your tradition speaks how? sorry, but no, and in ref. to the other thread in here about Gertrude...you made it clear. If that is how you think neat...but...I disagree!That's your tradition speaking. You were taught this and it's tough to see another side at the moment. It may come one day when you do start to ponder on your Bible alone dogma. Not saying you will but I wouldn't write you off just yet. God's Will is done on His time and not ours.
Don't you find it odd that the Jews (minus the Holy Spirit) had nowhere near the denomination splintering your Bible alone has brought you guys. Makes one go "hmmmmmmmm".
The problem is the RCC and EO have a strong desire to reconcile. (Maybe not individually, but corporately, yes)Remember, the RCC and the EO began the denominations and the splintering. We just followed the logical path.
The problem is the RCC and EO have a strong desire to reconcile. (Maybe not individually, but corporately, yes)
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