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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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My comparison of other seemingly harmless substances was an attempt to get people to think outside the box a little bit and approach the issue from another angle. I hear too many people go all out against things without really thinking about it. For example, that anti-gay and sexual sin issue. (off topic warning lol but just to make a point) Why do we hold people to a higher standard when they struggle with sexual sin but don't even acknowledge that gossip, coveting, and lying are probably even more rampant in our churches than blatant sexual sin. (back on topic) The real issue with pot, when it becomes a sin issue, is the self control issue. To be fair, we need to recognize that the self-control issue probably effects us all as it relates to an otherwise innocent/sinless thing or act. Why hammer one one thing when we are free to choose as individuals. Laugh if you want, but I know people that more addicted to garage sales than some people are to coffee. Is it not sin?
All I want is a fair discussion free from the bias of our upbringing that was inundated with government anti-drug propaganda.
Why can I legally get coacaine from a doctor but not marijuana?
Why is the federal governments business what happens between myself and a doctor?
I recognize that I need to obey the laws of the land, even when I disagree with them. What if those laws, while not directly commanding me to sin by disobeying a direct command from God but they do go against the Christian ideal of taking care of the sick as best we can? What about when the laws demand we take medicine that clearly is worse than the disease instead of something that really could help without the nasty side effects?
"Because it gets you high and messes with your brain and its unhealthy for you."
That dog won't hunt. If you want to take that hard stand then you have to demand no more store bought food or beverages and no medicine at all.
Here's an interesting study...
http://www.aahperd.org/iejhe/archive/donnelly20004.pdf
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/causes.pdf
just an interesting article
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa121.html
All I want is a fair discussion free from the bias of our upbringing that was inundated with government anti-drug propaganda.
Why can I legally get coacaine from a doctor but not marijuana?
Why is the federal governments business what happens between myself and a doctor?
I recognize that I need to obey the laws of the land, even when I disagree with them. What if those laws, while not directly commanding me to sin by disobeying a direct command from God but they do go against the Christian ideal of taking care of the sick as best we can? What about when the laws demand we take medicine that clearly is worse than the disease instead of something that really could help without the nasty side effects?
"Because it gets you high and messes with your brain and its unhealthy for you."
That dog won't hunt. If you want to take that hard stand then you have to demand no more store bought food or beverages and no medicine at all.
Here's an interesting study...
http://www.aahperd.org/iejhe/archive/donnelly20004.pdf
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/causes.pdf
just an interesting article
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa121.html
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bithiah2
Jah is my strength and song!
i don't believe in recreational drug use but i do feel that marijuana should be legal for medicinal purposes. THC can be used in pill form and it is a schedule II narcotic, legal for use, so there is no reason why they cannot give it to people who need it. it does work.
i have never smoked it, and don't want to. but if it will help a sick person to feel better and eat, then give it to them.
blessings,
bithiah2
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Harlan Norris
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If one was actually a casual pot user,that one would not be concerned about whether or not it was legal.Nor would they focus on any determined effort to get it legalised. This, because they could take it or leave it. So, if it becomes impossible to obtain for some legal reason,they will just say oh well,no big deal. They didn't need it before they ever smoked it,and they realise that they don't need it,period. So, it's gone,so what? Move on and foreget about it. However, if one smokes regularly,the thought that occoures often to the regular user is,how wonderfull and how good for all humanity,it would be, if it were legal. This is addiction. The thought of giving up ones drug of choice is completely repulsive in the mind of such a one. It's what makes their life work. Pot users will often say "pot is not addictive". Nonsense.
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