Marijuana

[cobweb]

Forget about policing marijuanna - not many people use it.



Alcohol, nicotine, and caffiene are the most widely used/abused drugs in our society.



If any drugs are illegal, we should outlaw these drugs first, and imprison anyone using caffiene, alcohol, or tobacco.

Must...have...coffee.

 

[susanann]

What is bad for one is not necessarily bad for all. Discounting physically addicting substances (opiates, alcohol, barbiturates), addiction is particular to the individual, not the activity. People can and do become addicted to many things,

Not only that, but addicts are extremely vindictive and jealous of each other, and attack each other.

Over my many years, I have found that those most likely to be opposed to something, are addicted to something else.

In other words, those most opposed, most vocal against marijuanna, are probably a bunch of drunks, tobacco users, or caffiene addicts.

They all sit around a table, one of them smoking, one drinking coca cola, another downing another cup of coffee/caffiene, and the other having some wine or beer - all of them talking about how bad it is for someone else to want drugs like marijuanna.


Not only are they totally and absolutely hypocritical, they cant even see their own hypocracy.

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

you can't even tell if you don't see my eyes

 

[Harlan Norris]

I find your comments to be insightful, based on direct experience, and I am in full agreement on every point.

My personal experience tells me the exact same things.

Nonetheless it is not the governments job to save us from ourselves, especially from a backyard weed.

Well, your right that govt. will not be able to police drug use. If you read the posts answering me then it's obvious that the majority of pro pot views are voiced by those that use.Been there, done that.Frankly the likelyhood that pot will become legal in the US grows smaller with each passing day.The recent revelations about servailance on our phones should be food for thought for them that use. However I doubt it.Personally I'd just hate to go to prison for pot.There may come a day when I'll have to go for my beliefs.I'm just glad my beliefs no longer revolve around dope.

 

[Brennin]

I havn't personally seen anyone advocate making tobacco illegal and making weed legal.

I might take that position, actually.

 

[k]

The laws of the land are disputeable. To some it seems unreasonable that pot is illegal. To me it seems likely, that those who consider it so,are probably users. Otherwise it would be a non issue. Pot is a crutch.Just as alchohol and the numerous other drugs one might use to separate one's self from life. What is clear to me as an ex user is that pot is not the key to happiness,insight,longevity or a cure for cancer. It is also clear to me that pot is a gateway drug.Once one finds ones self in the company of dopers,one will be tempted to try other more exotic offerings.Many such ones become statistics,with ruined lives and broken familys. So, I voted that it should remain illegal,with the full knowledge that it's illegal status does not of it'sself prevent use.Only an honest desire to remain clear of the trouble it brings can do that.

I'm a non-user and have access to it roughly 3 times a week.

It should be legal for several reasons; all of which outweigh any arguments to keep it illegal. However, I have a feeling nobody's mind would be changed on it and even if it was, they would not be likely to admit it on these boards.

That "gateway drug" argument has been repeatedly proven false yet the myth lives as if it is immortal. I used acid and coke before I even looked at weed. The truth is people will use whatever is available to make themselves feel better.

It doesn't matter if one's drug dealer wears a Brooks Brothers or jumpsuit.

 

[Harlan Norris]

I'm a non-user and have access to it roughly 3 times a week.

It should be legal for several reasons; all of which outweigh any arguments to keep it illegal. However, I have a feeling nobody's mind would be changed on it and even if it was, they would not be likely to admit it on these boards.

That "gateway drug" argument has been repeatedly proven false yet the myth lives as if it is immortal. I used acid and coke before I even looked at weed. The truth is people will use whatever is available to make themselves feel better.

It doesn't matter if one's drug dealer wears a Brooks Brothers or jumpsuit.

Of course it is possible to feel good without dope.I mean that can happen.We are a drug addled society.We all believe there's a happy pill out there somewhere.I too started with other drugs,however most of my friends didn't. They felt that pot was relatively safe and were willing to try that.But at the party there's acid and coke,ect.Drink a couple of brewskies smoke a bowl or two and it's a lot easier to see the benefits that say coke or speed might have.Before you know it your having the time of your life,and you definately want more of the same.My arguement is why take the chance? I seriously doubt that anyone posting here would like to see their own children doing drugs.That's where we draw the line.The arguement of well it's better than booze,really doesn't cut it.Booze goes well with drugs.We are our childrens example.They are a lot more likely to do as we do than as we say.

 

[TwinCrier]

Don't we have enough single men in their 30's living in their parents' basment yet?

 

[Brennin]

Don't we have enough single men in their 30's living in their parents' basment yet?

LOL!

 

[SummerMadness]

Don't we have enough single men in their 30's living in their parents' basment yet?

And what does this have to do with the legalization of marijuana? There are definitely more people using than 30-year olds in their parents' basements.

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

I seriously doubt that anyone posting here would like to see their own children doing drugs.That's where we draw the line.

When my kid was old enough to make an informed decision, I'd be happy to do it WITH him... just like many fathers take sons out for first beers.

 

[Mocca]

Who cares if it's addictive?

Caffiene is addictive, in the medical sense. So what?

 

[nvxplorer]

I'm just glad my beliefs no longer revolve around dope.

There are millions of casual users whose beliefs never revolved around dope. Do you think every social drinker is an alcoholic? Your experience does not apply to everyone. Your inability to use in moderation is not a reason to deny responsible users the freedom to imbibe.

 

[Zed]

I'm a strong supporter of marijuana staying illegal. Like it or not society already has a problem (functional but destructive) with alcohol, nicotine and caffeine. I don't think it would improve society one bit to regulate, tax and legally use weed.

I'm all for decriminalisation but not legalisation. Now and forever I think it should remain as a privledge for us few who are willing to break the law to indulge in one of the least destructive drugs known.

 

[nvxplorer]

I'm a strong supporter of marijuana staying illegal. Like it or not society already has a problem (functional but destructive) with alcohol, nicotine and caffeine. I don't think it would improve society one bit to regulate, tax and legally use weed.

Society has a multitude of problems. The question is whether people should be free to solve their own problems, or whether the government should protect us from ourselves.

 

[variant]

Well, your right that govt. will not be able to police drug use. If you read the posts answering me then it's obvious that the majority of pro pot views are voiced by those that use.Been there, done that.Frankly the likelyhood that pot will become legal in the US grows smaller with each passing day.The recent revelations about servailance on our phones should be food for thought for them that use. However I doubt it.Personally I'd just hate to go to prison for pot.There may come a day when I'll have to go for my beliefs.I'm just glad my beliefs no longer revolve around dope.

Well the government being tyrannical starts with the little things I think.

Everyone should support less government control in every aspect of our lives and you probably will never have to go to jail for holding a belief.

 

[Zed]

Society has a multitude of problems. The question is whether people should be free to solve their own problems, or whether the government should protect us from ourselves.

Individuals are smart; people are stupid. That's the whole reason we have a government, to protect the people from themselves. I'm a big advocate of peoples freedom but somethings are just too dangerous for society.

 

[nvxplorer]

Individuals are smart; people are stupid. That's the whole reason we have a government, to protect the people from themselves. I'm a big advocate of peoples freedom but somethings are just too dangerous for society.

Yes, some things are too dangerous. Dynamite, drunk driving, nuclear weapons... Marijuana is not. There are far more dangerous activities than smoking marijuana which are perfectly legal. Should Sonny Bono have been locked up before killing himself skiing?

 

[meebs]

When my kid was old enough to make an informed decision, I'd be happy to do it WITH him... just like many fathers take sons out for first beers.

i remember when i admitted to my dad i smoked pot occasionaly, he actually asked me to get some.

 

[meebs]

I am a nonuser, and I never will be a user.

It should be legal.

It is not a non-issue for nonusers - the Drug War, esp. marijuanna, is wasting tens of billions of our tax dollars, wasting millions of police manhours, and has accomplished nothing except to give huge sums of money to the mafia, to police, to attorneys, to prison service industries, and caused lots and lots of violent drug related crimes.

yeah i watched some of "cops" today and it showed them doing a drugs bust in Florida. They had plain clothes cops posing as dealers, who would stop people in their cars. If they gave the signal for deal, The police would drive in and surround the cars and make arrests. They impounded the users car and arrest the user. They had to pay to get the car back and would serve time in prison. Then i found out it was all for pot. The people were getting for personal use. I thought this was insane. The claimed the reason was - not get the dealer but reduce the dealers business by arresting the user.

I can think of worst drugs out there that the police need to focus on, oh and worst crimes.