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Marijuana Prohibition

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Let me first state, though I believe there is nothing wrong with marijuana, it is illegal and should be abstained from until made legal. That out of the way here's my issue.

Starting from the earliest arguments and ending with the most modern.

First scripturally. Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Does science support using the verse for marijuana? Yes, seeds of the plant cannabis sativa contain all the essential amino acids and essential fatty acids necessary to maintain healthy human life. No other single plant source has the essential amino acids in such an easily digestible form, nor has the essential fatty acids in as perfect a ratio to meet human nutritional needs. It's no wonder that before made illegal it was in over 2/3rd of prescription drugs.

Why was it made illegal then? Well, many may think of that question but few actually look for the answer. The first law ever to ban marijuana was passed by the Mormon church (popular majority) of Utah in 1915. They declared all euporiants as contrary to their religion and thus outlawed. Then Texas they said on the Texas senate floor,
"All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff (referring to marijuana) is what makes them crazy." I don't exactly agree with that statement. Montana said on their senate floor, "Give one of these Mexican beet field workers a couple of puffs on a marijuana cigarette and he thinks he is in the bullring at Barcelona." Interesting. New York said when they made it illegal, "No one here in New York uses this drug marijuana. We have only just heard about it from down in the Southwest, but we had better prohibit its use before it gets here. Otherwise all the heroin and hard narcotics addicts cut off from their drug by the Harrison Act and all the alcohol drinkers cut off from their drug by 1919 alcohol Prohibition will substitute this new and unknown drug marijuana for the drugs they used to use."

Anyway those are just a few of the state's reasons for making it illegal. Mainly racism and the desire to withhold people from all intoxicants. Now you may think, that is only the state laws, surely when it went before the federal court they had by that time much more evidence. Well, usually when a law is passed there are volumes and volumes of information leading to the law.
Charles Whitebread, a professor of Law at USC once got the manuscript. He says, "When we asked at the Library of Congress for a copy of the hearings, to the shock of the Library of Congress, none could be found. We went "What?" It took them four months to finally honor our request because -- are you ready for this? -- the hearings were so brief that the volume had slid down inside the side shelf of the bookcase and was so thin it had slid right down to the bottom inside the bookshelf" What exactly went on in this brief congressional meeting? Well in the committees they had the AMA say they saw no reason for such a law, and that it could cut them off from some very important new developments in medicine. When it went to the floor of the congress one question was asked in a minute thirty-six second debate. Does the AMA approve? To which a wig answered that they were behind the bill.

Now you can read up more on the issue yourself. But basicly you can see here the law is based on lies and racism. When you read up more on it you will find it is also based on greed which is why hemp (the non-euphoric) form of marijuana was outlawed as well.

More recent arguments. Marijuana is a gateway drug. Well, that is only the case because it is connected with the harder drug markets. Marijuana according to US Govt statistics has killed 0 people in our history. But right now to get it you must go to a dealer who sells coke, crack, XTC, or herion as well. If you go into a liquor store and they also have cigarettes why not pick up both or at least try them once? And with the harder drugs when you try them once, they'll get you.

Marijuana has been proven to cure some cases of brain cancer. It's helpful in many AIDS cases. It is good for everything from ABS to glacoma to ephazima to use as mild to moderate pain killers. It is impossible to overdose. You can smoke (like I did) for years daily and stop on a dime without getting any withdrawals. If instead of buys 4 or 5 kegs these college kids would buy as much marijuana as they could get, you would not see anyone dying from marijuana poisoning. But they die all the time from alcohol poisoning. Marijuana despite it's tar content has never been linked to causing lung cancer. It is a natural expectorant, and my friends mom who smoked for over 30 years daily when she went for a check up had flawless lungs for her age.

The law came so that sin would increase. The law came to make sin exceedingly sinful. All prohibition does is drive our nation's economy further in a hole. They tell us it's working, but every year there is no drop in drug use and they end up spending billions more. This year it will cost us over 31 billion for this war on families. Over 1/2 the people in prison are in prison for peaceful crimes of self-regulation. Our prison system has become a school system for criminials. One first goes in for using marijuana in a peaceful manner then after spending a couple years with rapist, murderers, armed robbers (bad company corrupts good morals) they come out and get theyselves into worse problems because the lifestyle they learned and had to live by for so long. When they get out, their dignity is taken from them, they can not longer get good jobs because they allowed something to enter their body that someone else said shouldn't enter they body.

If someone smokes weed and steals something, they are a theif and should be punished for it. Does this mean that everyone that smokes weed is a theif? If I smoked and never stole anything should I still be punished because someone else lacked self control? Prohibition as proved by it with alcohol never works. When alcohol was prohibited, all we got was more crime. Bootlegging and the mob started. If you really want to do the right thing, put all the people selling out of business. How? By making it legal and regulating it. How many people do you see selling alcohol on the black market?
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I don't really approve of marijuana use and I've never done it but as time passes I think the criminalzation of it is failing and that people should be able to make their own choices.

It's a bit of a toughy because pot isn't good for the brain and is probably even worse on the lungs.

I'm all for it's medicinial use and would probably vote to decriminalize it.
 
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Elijah, I couldn't agree with you more.

That being said, why are you aligned with a political party that supports stopping drug use with the death penalty. I think Libertarian might look a little better on you.

It's a bit of a toughy because pot isn't good for the brain and is probably even worse on the lungs.

It's not spinach, but it does far less damage to the brain as opposed to alcohol and pot is very simulative of intellectual and philosophical thinking. The downside is you generally can't remeber the amazing revelations you made the next morning.

It also doesn't do near the amount of damage to the lungs as cigarettes, and there several other methods one can go about consuming cannabis, include tintures, foods, rubbing oils, and the method of smoking known as vaporization, in which no burning plant material is inhaled.
 
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Well, I did vote Libertian last election. I heard some good things about the Constitution party, and basicly I'm for almost any party outside of the two party system. But after that I must say I'm back to Libertian. Thank you for the information.

As far as damage to the brain. I would agree that depending on how much you smoke it may impede your short term memory. But that is only for the time you stay high and will return to normal within a day if not hours.

As far as lungs, marijuana is a natural expectorant. I'm an advocate with vaporizing marijuana which yields no tar in the inhaled smoke. Also if you vaporize there is absolutely no damage done to the lungs. But even if you were to smoke it, it has never been shown to cause lung cancer or any cancer for that matter. And it also used to help people with emphysema.

Back when I was in the Air Force I allowed myself to be very badly influenced by my peers. I was to the point of drinking a case a day for $20. And on the weekends add a fifth of liquor. Add to that a pack and a half to two pack a day habit on newports (17 mg of tar per cigarette). Basicly they make all other cigarettes look like ultra lights. By the time I was out of the Air Force I was drinking only a 6 pack a day and only a pack a day of newports. I smoked the reefer for the first time about this time (6 months after getting out of the military). After a couple times of experimenting with my limits on it I came to know first hand that it was impossible to overdose. And that even the nights when I would go completely overboard, the next day I would still feel better than a night with alcohol. And I didn't hack up stuff out of my lungs. So I used it to stop my drinking all together and curb my cigarette habit to a pack a week. This is another reason why I think weed should be legal. It is a safe alternative and a quick, easy way to wean yourself off more destructive drugs like alcohol, cigarettes, and anything harder.

I have recently come to find the power to overcome that Christ has given us all. And for two months I have not smoked (weed or cigarettes) and drank or used anything harder than these. Cigarettes I wouldn't go back to because they have no good use. Alcohol I don't mind on occasion in moderation. And I would smoke weed but it is illegal and because of my beliefs now I believe I should respect the laws of the land. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't use every vote to legalize this benign plant.00
 
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If marijuana were legalized,

a) massive corporations would be built up around selling the stuff, not unlike tobacco, and

b) they'd throw all kinds of additives in it, probably tobacco, and

c) pot is not chemically addictive, and

d) adding tobacco would make it that way to maximize profits.

Keep it illegal, just decriminalize posession. Set a realistic limit to prosecute dealers. Decriminalize up to, say, a quarter pound.
 
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Compromise. If you totally legalize, then you'll get the scenario I described.

Sure, it's hypocritical to say hey, you can use it - but you can't sell it; but thats basically the system they've got in Holland and it seems to be working.

The thing is, we've got Libertarians who are for full legalization, we've got the GOP and "conservatives" who want a variety of "solutions," some want to keep it fully illegal and keep throwing casual users in jail, we've got some of them who want to give heavy fines, but most of them just want it illegal. We've got leftists who have a weird variety of positions as well, we've got the far leftists who almost worship the stuff.
 
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Government makes too much money off of Marijuana for them to legalize it. I know here, in Detroit, and in a lot of other places, getting caught with Marijuana gets you a simple ticket that you have to pay. I really think that through this ticketing method, the government makes a lot more money than they would through taxing it.
 
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Well, as far as I'm concerned they need only legalize it to the point of a allowing 1 to 5 plants a person. Tobacco is too hazardous and I wouldn't smoke a mix. I'd perfer growing my own so I may tweek the taste, quality smoke, etc. This also works well into the routine of moderation. You won't smoke your plants to death or else you'll find yourself spending alot of money to restart a grow.

The government would make far more money off of legalization. Especially if they legalized the non-psychoactive cousin - hemp. In a four month growing season it will grow to 20 feet. You can grow it anywhere, and it's roots break up bad soil to make it possible to grow other things better after. In 1937, Popular Mechanics and Mechanical Engerineer Magazine declared hemp to be the new billion dollar crop and the most desirable crop for farmers. That's like 40 billion nowadays if not more. After a couple years of legaliztion after growing techniques and equipment became popularized it would be a thriving industry. And you need not polute the grounds like for cotton and many other crops.

Its uses make the soy bean look about as useful as a cabbage in comparision. A renewable source of energy that would cut our oil dependancies is also desirable. Save the rain fosest with hemp paper like the Declaration of Independance was first printed on. Curb enviromental polution by replacing cotton with all it's pesticides with hemp and its natural pest restitance. Balance your diet with the most complete nutritional seed. Problems with petrochemicals? Replace them with hemp products. Etc ad nausea

Oh yea, and as far as decrimilization. No need for a limit. It won't take too long before the dealers can't keep up with the prices of the mainstream market. They'll stop when they start losing money. This is already the problem with dealers. They can make more money off harder drugs so they keep selling their marijuana and start selling the hard drugs as well. Take the soft drug out of the hard drug market and it would resolve many problems.
 
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