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invisible trousers said:I'm curious, how could consuming a plant made by God be considered witchcraft?
well ur not excactly consuming it, but consuming the afteraffect of burning itI'm curious, how could consuming a plant made by God be considered witchcraft?
alchohol is only bad for you in large doses though, light drinking is good..Cigs and alcohol are far worse but worse substances are morally acceptable. Any argument about it not being good for you is refuted because alcohol is worse and that is Biblically acceptable ...
why would societys view have any affect on itIf the Bible doesn't explcitiy condemn it and society finds it morally acceptable, then what is the problem?
why, for something to be witchcraft, doesnt it need to involve demonsMorally: Don't agree with it. I consider it witchcraft. Not good, especially for a christian.
no, i read it somewhere but it doesnt matter, studies and tests arent needed to come to a conclusion unless you dont have friends who do marijuana, and if you dont then how would you get it.1. do you know how cannabinoids affect the brain?
no, but neither do we when we testify about the lord. I have many friends who regret ever using marijuana. Once youve used it, you know what it feels like and can never take that knowledge away.2. do you have sources for anything you've said?
no.. go to the alchohol discussion thread, were not talking about sacrimental wine, it talks about wine in other parts of the bible also.the wine was sacrimental wine. which is traditionally made of one part wine and two parts water. in that way it has less alchohol than cough syrup.
no.. go to the alchohol discussion thread, were not talking about sacrimental wine, it talks about wine in other parts of the bible also.
Killing my neighbor is as bad as taking hits from a bong? Please. Your analogy is so off it's not even close to being applicable to this situation.i believe it has to do with the intent of purpose. by that logic, i could justify shooting people because metal was made by God and therefore meant to be used. using what God gave us is good, but when we turn its good benifits into harmful devices, we insult Gods original design.
You can also get high from eating marijuana. How could consuming a plant GOD CREATED be witchcraft?Shizzle said:well ur not excactly consuming it, but consuming the afteraffect of burning it
You shouldn't be making claims that you can't prove.no, i read it somewhere but it doesnt matter, studies and tests arent needed to come to a conclusion unless you dont have friends who do marijuana, and if you dont then how would you get it.
no, but neither do we when we testify about the lord. I have many friends who regret ever using marijuana. Once youve used it, you know what it feels like and can never take that knowledge away.
ian90 said:If it doesn't bring me closer to God, then I'm not interested. Hopefully that would make them think!
Getting closer to God
Evangelism
That's what is important and takes priority for me on the details of my faith.
Shizzle said:why, for something to be witchcraft, doesnt it need to involve demons
invisible trousers said:You can also get high from eating marijuana. How could consuming a plant GOD CREATED be witchcraft?
unfortunately i dont remember the name of the special i saw on the history channel. but it specifically said that according to jewish tradition, sacrimental wine was used which was one part wine and two parts water.You shouldn't be making claims that you can't prove.
neverforsaken said:And my analogy is quite the same when you consider than poisoning your body is a sin, and so is murder. and sin is sin no matter the severity. so yes, killing someone is just as bad as taking a hit from a bong in Gods eyes.
Horoscopes is making up stupid stuff that isn't really christian; consuming marijuana is eating a plant made by God.Marissa said:Does reading the horoscopes directly involve demons?
But you can't compare the devil's weed to the forbidden tree. They aren't similar in any way.By that logic Adam didn't sin by eatting the fruit, because God created the tree and it's fruit. Just because God created it doesn't mean that it is fit for our consumption, or that it can't be a means of sin.
No scriptural justification. Besides, you've never smoked weed, have you? I don't think you can provide a valid opinion on something you have no experience with.Marijuana plays with the mind. It's a mind altering drug. Just as much as hypnosis is mind altering. It changes a persons view of reality and their behaviour. It's giving control up. If you're not given control to God, or to another person, who are you giving it to? I'm not suggesting everytime someone uses mind altering drugs they become demon possessed, however they are giving some control to the enemy and trusting them over God.
I consider it witchcraft.
Poisoning? Do you know how cannabinoids work? They're not poisonous at all. You still haven't show how smoking the devil's weed is as bad as killing someone. When I kill someone, they die. When I smoke, you get offended. Slight difference there.
invisible trousers said:Horoscopes is making up stupid stuff that isn't really christian; consuming marijuana is eating a plant made by God.
But you can't compare the devil's weed to the forbidden tree. They aren't similar in any way.
No scriptural justification.
Besides, you've never smoked weed, have you? I don't think you can provide a valid opinion on something you have no experience with.
Well, this is kind of moot I guess. None of the religious arguments should have a legal bearing on the discussion of it being legalized. The war on drugs is a colossal failure, a waste of money, and hasn't shown to work at all. Imprisoning people convicted of mere drug possession hasn't shown to affect usage rates a single bit.
holo said:On the other hand, I do think it's wrong for it to be completely outlawed and punishable to smoke plant, though in the case of opium people wouldn't use the same arguments I think.
Maybe the problem is that it's become so much of a DRUG that nobody manages to have a sensible opinion on it. It's either completely harmless or the devil's weed.
i have many friends who say that they experience some bad affects directly from it that they can really notice like:The sad part, is anecdotal evidence seems to indicate a very high probability that its beneficial from a medical standpoint
False. I asked for proof and you didn't give it to me last time, so I'll ask again: please back up those claims with actual scientific proof. If you can't back them up, maybe you should stop claiming it.Shizzle said:i know that it has side affects, mostly dealing with the accumulation of THC, which erodes short term memory, and exhausts your body.
you arent always 100% sure of what your getting, black widow, the so called high quality goverment weed, is really just another type spray painted black, with red painted seeds. The spray paint aids to the high, and has extreme health affects. I have a friend who had his weed laced with loveboat(his high lasted for 2 days, so did the migraine), a less potent variation of acid with little side affects in comparison.
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