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No, simply that the saving graces of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit choose to work and save through the prayers, intercession, and care of Mary.Salvation is possible only if Mary signs off on it first?
No, simply that the saving graces of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit choose to work and save through the prayers, intercession, and care of Mary.
Mary is the first Christian. She wants us to go to Heaven, and through her prayers, (as in when God saves through the prayers of a loving, righteous, concerned Christian friend of someone in need), God works. Not that God needs the Blessed Virgin, only that He has chosen to work through her. Not only once in history at the Annunciation but continually.
That sounds more like an explanation of the place of Mary in Catholic theology than an answer to the question about the meaning of the expression Immaculate Heart of Mary. It is a peculiar and vague description, you have to admit.
Ah, so, Immaculate simply means without stain or imperfection. Mary loved and was united to God immaculately through her Immaculate Conception and freedom from original sin. Thus when we honor her Immaculate Heart, we praise and draw near to the mystery of her deep, often silent, intrinsic spiritual union with God and desire that souls should be saved no matter what the cost was. And the cost was her Son. That is a profound love.
Why would anyone think that? Everything in Scripture is about salvation being through Jesus with no mention of any intermediaries.No, simply that the saving graces of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit choose to work and save through the prayers, intercession, and care of Mary.
Where is it written?
Again, where is it written?
The same place where Scripture explicitly and precisely defines, verbatim and leaving no room for debate, that "God exists eternally in Three co-equal Persons as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, One God, and is thus Triune in nature and specifically a Trinity".I do understand that the above is Catholic doctrine and tradition, but where is it written in Scripture?
Not explicitly in the Scriptures, but then, Catholicism is not limited to the contents of Scripture, or Acts. The Word is Jesus, and He continues to love us and helps us to understand the love He has for us through the Church.
I think we all know that the organ that pumps blood has nothing to do with being conceived without sin even if that were true in the case of Mary. Anyway, I have no desire to badger you about this; it appears to be nothing more than a fanciful, romantic, poetic way of saying we need to worship Mary--if indeed we do.Ah, so, Immaculate simply means without stain or imperfection. Mary loved and was united to God immaculately through her Immaculate Conception and freedom from original sin. Thus when we honor her Immaculate Heart, we praise and draw near to the mystery of her deep, often silent, intrinsic spiritual union with God and desire that souls should be saved no matter what the cost was. And the cost was her Son. That is a profound love.
The same place where Scripture explicitly and precisely defines, verbatim and leaving no room for debate, that "God exists eternally in Three co-equal Persons as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, One God, and is thus Triune in nature and specifically a Trinity".
anything we choose to attribute to Jesus can be considered dogma IOW.Not explicitly in the Scriptures, but then, Catholicism is not limited to the contents of Scripture, or Acts. The Word is Jesus, and He continues to love us and helps us to understand the love He has for us through the Church.
anything we choose to attribute to Jesus can be considered dogma IOW.
None of these attributes, powers, or special assignments were taught from the Apostles onward. That much we know for certain.Not so. What has the Church taught through her Saints, Liturgies, and prayers from the Apostles onward? That is a central question.
The Catholic concept of reparation is difficult to understand. "Making reparation" is not about atoning for sin, but it is about un-doing blasphemy. So making reparation to the Immaculate Heart would mean to say some prayers praising Mary, to un-do all the blasphemy done against her. We can also make reparation to Jesus Christ, under the titles of the Sacred Heart or the Holy Face, or to the blessed Trinity. When someone you love is being ridiculed or mocked, it is only a natural instinct to want to make it good, even if it is not necessary.* There is no one who needs to or even can "sacrifice themselves for sinners"
* There is no need to "make reparation for sins committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary". We are guilty before God, and He alone is our judge in that. (And He has chosen to give mercy and grace through Jesus Christ our Saviour).
*Mary does not possess "all the graces necessary for salvation", and so she cannot offer them in return for devotion to her "Immaculate Heart." Only God saves, specifically through the Sacrifice on the cross of His Son, Jesus Christ. That is the only Grace necessary for salvation.
*Jesus would not say there is no one to make "reparation" for sin. He alone has purged sin, once and for all.
This is why I cannot accept "Our Lady of Fatima" as being a true revelation from God.
The devotion to the Immaculate Heart focuses on the pure love Mary had (and still has) for God. The devotion honours this love, and the inner life of Mary in general, including her virtues, joys and sorrows. And the devotee seeks to love God just as intensely as Mary did. Devotional practices include the Rosary, the First Saturdays Devotion (going to Mass in honour the Immaculate Heart), meditating on the seven sorrows of Mary (the sorrows being the "sword" that pierced her heart). In a sense Mary is the Immaculate Heart. The Immaculate Heart of Mary is, if you like, a Catholic "code word" for Mary's love and interior life. And quite frankly, most of the times when you read "the Immaculate Heart [of Mary]", you could simply replace it with "Mary" and the meaning would be more or less the same. Again, the title is more devotional than theological, borne out of popular piety rather than theological debate....and what does devotion to (or sins against) Mary's Immaculate Heart even mean? Seriously.
The Catholic concept of reparation is difficult to understand. "Making reparation" is not about atoning for sin, but it is about un-doing blasphemy. So making reparation to the Immaculate Heart would mean to say some prayers praising Mary, to un-do all the blasphemy done against her.
We can also make reparation to Jesus Christ, under the titles of the Sacred Heart or the Holy Face, or to the blessed Trinity. When someone you love is being ridiculed or mocked, it is only a natural instinct to want to make it good, even if it is not necessary.
Mary is "the mother of grace", since she is the mother of him from whom all graces flow, that is Christ.
But what role Mary has in the distribution of graces now is still a ongoing theological debate in the Catholic Church.
Some take the maximalist position (all graces from Christ flows through the hands of Mary), some take the minimalist position (Mary's main task is to pray, so she is only involved in the distribution of graces by way of suffrage), and there is every position in-between also.
You disagree with the Fatima apparition. But there is no arguing that the theology from the Fatima apparitions is at least consistent with Catholic theology.
The devotion to the Immaculate Heart focuses on the pure love Mary had (and still has) for God.
The devotion honours this love, and the inner life of Mary in general, including her virtues, joys and sorrows.
And the devotee seeks to love God just as intensely as Mary did.
Devotional practices include the Rosary, the First Saturdays Devotion (going to Mass in honour the Immaculate Heart), meditating on the seven sorrows of Mary (the sorrows being the "sword" that pierced her heart). In a sense Mary is the Immaculate Heart. The Immaculate Heart of Mary is, if you like, a Catholic "code word" for Mary's love and interior life. And quite frankly, most of the times when you read "the Immaculate Heart [of Mary]", you could simply replace it with "Mary" and the meaning would be more or less the same. Again, the title is more devotional than theological, borne out of popular piety rather than theological debate.
There are generally five different offenses committed against the Immaculate Heart: (1) offenses against the Immaculate Conception, (2) against her virginity, (3) against her being the Mother of God, (4) to foster indifference or hate toward Mary and (5) to desecrate images or icons of Mary. This is the list you'll find online. So to sin against the Immaculate Heart would be to commit these particular offenses.
There also exist the parallel devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, focusing on the Divine Love he has for humanity. The devotion to the Sacred Heart is more popular, I believe, even though the devotion to the Immaculate Heart pre-dates it.
Then there is the joint devotion to the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, focusing on both Hearts. Sort of like a "two for one" deal.
Mary is indeed considered as "something sacred or inviolable".How does one “blaspheme” a fellow, mortal human being?
Blaspheme: (verb)
* speak irreverently about God or sacred things.
* the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God
* irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable
And what exactly would be an example of a “blasphemy” spoken against Mary?
What I meant was that the particular devotion to Mary under the title of "the Immaculate Heart" predates the particular devotion to Jesus under the title of "the Sacred Heart". Devotion to the Immaculate Heart was popularized by St. John Eudes (1601-1680) in the late 1640's, while devotion to the Sacred Heart was popularized by St. Margaret Mary Alacoque (1647-1690) in the early 1680's.Wait....devotion to Mary predates devotion to Jesus? I really must disagree with you on that. The Scriptures are clear, one should only be devoted in that way to God. The early Church did not do with Mary what the Catholic church has done.
Mary is indeed considered as "something sacred or inviolable".
The word blasphemy is etymologically linked to the word "blame". Blasphemy means to speak evil of God and of sacred things. If it was sacred, then it was blasphemeable. With time, this word has become reserved for the mocking of God alone. It's one of those old-timey words, like how British mayors are still styled "His or (Her) Worship" - even though no one is worshipping them.
Examples of blasphemy against Mary would be destroying or desecrating images or icons of her (yes, people actually do this - artist Andres Serrano has submerged both images of Christ and Mary in urine and claimed that it was "art"). Or it could be to do as Celsus did in the 2nd century and claim things about Mary which I will not even reiterate here. Those are some practical examples. Again, "blasphemy" might not be the most suitable word today, but that's the word we're stuck with.
What I meant was that the particular devotion to Mary under the title of "the Immaculate Heart" predates the particular devotion to Jesus under the title of "the Sacred Heart". Devotion to the Immaculate Heart was popularized by St. John Eudes (1601-1680) in the late 1640's, while devotion to the Sacred Heart was popularized by St. Margaret Mary Alacoque (1647-1690) in the early 1680's.
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