Mar 22: they are at it again

dysert said:

Thanks, Cosmic. So Marantha's video is only batting .250 in your opinion. Kinda makes you wonder about the last prediction. I'm very interested to see if he'll back away from the video now that three specific things have been identified and there's no wiggle room for the fulfillment.

I hope to find an hour to watch the 911 video you posted.

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i wouldnt believe it if it was not shown how all the signs of israel and eclipses etc all works out perfectly.
watching the video would upset dispensationalists and rapture believers.

it seems that people cant separate those dispy teachings from the reality of a millennium.

dysert said:

As I've noted earlier, the "something absolutely incredible", according to the Daniel video you've repeatedly pointed us to, is supposed to include three things:

• AoD
• Flood in Israel
• Exodus from Israel

Are you still holding to the position that these will start on 3/22 (especially in light of the fact that the video was wrong wrt the altar and February of this year)?

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It was very interesting the way Marantha couldn't type these 7 words and 3 bullet points. I requested that he detail in a few paragraphs what they predicted: he refused. "Watch this INCREDIBLE FREE VIDEO..." There's 70 minutes of my life I'll never get back! I honestly couldn't bare going on any further, it was so bad.

So, as 'energetic' as our exchanges have become, I really do worry that Marantha may have a faith-questioning moment if his precious video's turn out to be worthless spittoons full of... spittoon stuff. (Hoik, DING!)

Marantha, if this doesn't turn out, what does it mean for what you'll consider in your eschatological reading? Would you be willing to buy a cheap little commentary on Revelation?

A great SHORT commentary on Revelation that helps unpack it quickly is also quite cheap. It's "Revelation Unwrapped" by John Richardson, and takes a mostly Reformed Amil Symbolic approach to the obvious and even more obscure Old Testament symbols used by John.

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Another great commentary that is also symbolist but also has a slightly more Historical emphasis is by Dr Paul Barnett, "Apocalypse Now and then". Paul lecturered in Ancient History at Macquarie University as well as being an ordained Bishop of North Sydney. He ran historical tours of the bible lands, and is uniquely qualified to speak of John's historical references in Revelation. Under $15.
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Marantha, for all our heated debates, I'll pray for you tonight. I hope you'll be OK, whatever happens. OK?

It was very interesting the way Marantha couldn't type these 7 words and 3 bullet points. I requested that he detail in a few paragraphs what they predicted: he refused. "Watch this INCREDIBLE FREE VIDEO..." There's 70 minutes of my life I'll never get back! I honestly couldn't bare going on any further, it was so bad.

i didn't want to watch a 2 hour video either, but it is worth the time. it is basically that the abomination occurs on the 22nd March 2013, and that starts a 3.5 year trib, which ends with the return of Christ in oct-sept 2016.
the video shows how it all works out in detail, according to an analysis of daniel.

March 27th is Resurrection Day!
God's days follow a pattern. Why look for destruction, when there is a day of good news?
The day God told Noah to get into the ark is the same as the lamb preparation of the second Passover. The Kingdom is as a man on a journey (matt25:14). The second Passover is for a man on a journey...

1,068=1056(days from Adam to Noah)+12 stones of altar (Iyyar 11) to March 27th
1,068=44.5 x24 from day God tells Noah to get into ark (Iyyar 11) to March 27th
1,068=(153x7)-3 153 fish for each were so many (there were 7).
Nisan 1 5,770 to Nisan 16 5,773 equals...
1,107=(46x24)time to build the temple + 3 to rebuild
666 from the day Noah comes out of the ark (Iyyar 27)
1,335 from temple destruction (Av 9/10)

Gideon, metonic cycle, babylon
(300x19)+70 year captivity=5,770
We are already just over 3 years into "overtime"

So, then, what are you guys doing between now and then? What is on your calendar for today, for instance?

RDKirk said:

I'm not sure a demon could not answer that question in the affirmative. The proper question is, "Is Jesus your lord?"

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You can ask any question you want, so will I.

ptomwebster said:

You can ask any question you want, so will I.

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Well, to be more direct to the issue, in my experience I have not had an instance where the demon was casual enough to engage me in a conversational question-and-answer session. The circumstances of the event, the characteristics of his attack, and the warning shout of the Holy Spirit identified him well enough.

RDKirk said:

Well, to be more direct to the issue, in my experience I have not had an instance where the demon was casual enough to engage me in a conversational question-and-answer session. The circumstances of the event, the characteristics of his attack, and the warning shout of the Holy Spirit identified him well enough.

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Why would you want to engage in a casual conversation with a demon? Order them out!

Strong in Him said:

Very handy way of saying; "I may be wrong".

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Also known a 'moving the goal post.'

eclipsenow said:

It was very interesting the way Marantha couldn't type these 7 words and 3 bullet points. I requested that he detail in a few paragraphs what they predicted: he refused. "Watch this INCREDIBLE FREE VIDEO..." There's 70 minutes of my life I'll never get back! I honestly couldn't bare going on any further, it was so bad.

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Yeah, I found that interesting too. Equally as interesting is the fact that each time I've posted these 7 words and 3 bullet points Marantha has ignored them. Maybe he's ignoring them so that he can say (after the events don't happen this week) that I got the video wrong.

I will say one thing. The guy in the video has obviously invested a whole lot of time (at least months) in coming up with his numbers. I feel bad for him, too, having wasted so much effort on a vain pursuit.

ptomwebster said:

Why would you want to engage in a casual conversation with a demon? Order them out!

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That was my point. There were no casual conversations.

RDKirk said:

So, then, what are you guys doing between now and then? What is on your calendar for today, for instance?

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Have just been to offer as a volunteer in a day centre which is run by a national charity. It will take a couple of weeks for the references and CRB check to come through, and I expect to be able to start after that.

I am visiting them again in 2 days time, and going to volunteer in our local hospital in the afternoon - as a chaplaincy volunteer.

dysert said:

As I've noted earlier, the "something absolutely incredible", according to the Daniel video you've repeatedly pointed us to, is supposed to include three things:

• AoD
• Flood in Israel
• Exodus from Israel

Are you still holding to the position that these will start on 3/22 (especially in light of the fact that the video was wrong wrt the altar and February of this year)?

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YES. I have stated this many, many occasions now. I CONTINUE to believe the evidence about March 22. That is why I present it here. I do not care who mocks me; it makes no difference whatsoever. I do not care what scoffers do as they will be held accountable to Christ just as I will. My whole intent is to warn the Brethren of the times, because I love them. I am not sure about the "flood" in the video. There are a few minor details in the documentary that are not correct also. As a whole, it is absolutely incredible.

Once again, I DO BELIEVE the witnesses are clear for MARCH 22. I will not be falling back. I do not know how many will leave as commanded to after recognizing the Scriptural Command to flee.

The witnesses declare it will happen. So it will. I do not have a problem with unbelief; or flip flopping.

Praise God
Marantha

Marantha said:

Once again, I DO BELIEVE the witnesses are clear for MARCH 22. I will not be falling back. I do not know how many will leave as commanded to after seeing the abomination of desolation.

The witnesses declare it will happen. So it will. I do not have a problem with unbelief; or flip flopping.

Praise God
Marantha

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whats going to happen on March 22nd?

Originally Posted by dysert

hiscosmicgoldfish said: I found this video interesting...

119 Ministries ~ Test Everything - Daniel Unsealed

i dont believe there will be any exodus from israel on the 22nd, i think they got that wrong, and no flood. but the abomination happens on the 22nd.
they say that daniel is not talking about a covenant made by the antirchrist with israel, but that the covenant of Christ is confirmed for 7 years.
they also show how daniel predicts that ramadan of this year will be important according to the antichrist's timetable, not God's timetable.

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I had posted this other video as a witness to the same date many times before here also. I had also recommended the two others, for a total of 3. People have commented here on all 3. These are the only 3 videos I ever have, and ever will encourage people to watch here. All free direct links.

In order. Again.

The Daniel Timeline

http://danielstimeline.com/gallery1.htm

Daniel Unsealed

119 Ministries ~ Test Everything - Daniel Unsealed

The Power Behind the New World Order

The Power Behind the New World Order on Vimeo


Come Lord Jesus
Marantha

hiscosmicgoldfish said:

whats going to happen on March 22nd?

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We wait and see. You have seen the same information I have seen.
That is why I have presented it here.

All Glory be to God
Marantha

Strong in Him said:

You can't start by teaching/quoting Matt 24 and then suddenly flip to Revelation to prove, or demonstrate, your point.

You quoted verses from Matt 24, in bold font and underlining them, presumably for emphasis. One of these verses was about the temple being destroyed so that no stone remains. I told you that this prophecy was fulfilled in AD 70 - Jerusalem was captured and the temple destroyed. I also said that Jesus' prophesy that the disciples would be persecuted for their faith, came true.
You don't seem to have replied to this - either to say "yes, you're right, I must have taken that out of context", or to say "no, you're wrong; these words of Jesus are about furture events". Matt 24 does not say anything at all about seals.

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Yes, Jesus was answering the disciples questions. The first one was, "when will the Temple buildings be left with not one stone upon another?" Jesus' answer was the abomination of desolation. The next question was, "what is the sign of your coming and the end of the age? Jesus' answer was that the great tribulation that began with the abomination of desolation 91st century) will be cut short, immediately followed by the events of the 6th seal. He said the false christ/false prophet will arise with false miracles and he will come on the clouds to destroy.

The 6th seal is mentioned in verse 29, "immediately after the tribulation of those days" is cut short, then the sun is darkened, the moon is darkened and the stars fall. That's the 6th seal!

Marantha said:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7729376-40/#post62653115

As I've noted earlier, the "something absolutely incredible", according to the Daniel video you've repeatedly pointed us to, is supposed to include three things:

• AoD
• Flood in Israel
• Exodus from Israel

Come Lord Jesus
Marantha

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The "flood in Israel" is armies, Marantha.

Look at the order of events:

1. Devil cast down:

Rev 12:
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


2. Church has been caught up:



10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.




3. Cast-down devil sends an army into Israel:





13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Rev 13:And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


4. Beast assigned a mouth - the "antichrist"



5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. (the church!)

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them (those left behind) : and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.






Isaiah 27:12 Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.




That same army is in Joel 2, Zech 12, Ezek 38.


The destruction of that army, the mouth of the beast, and the head wound are related.

My response to the March 22 thing going around:

What part of "but of that day and hour knoweth NO MAN, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" don't people understand?

Jesus Himself said He didn't know.

So somebody out there knows better than Jesus? Ha! Fat chance...

He said the day and hour nobody will know... the year and the month, however, can most certainly be narrowed down and I do believe we're going to see it happen very, very, VERY soon.

We can certainly figure out the approximate time, but there's no way anybody on this screwed up earth is figuring out the actual day...

The only way we'll know is when it's already happening.

Jon David said:

My response to the March 22 thing going around:

What part of "but of that day and hour knoweth NO MAN, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" don't people understand?

Jesus Himself said He didn't know.

So somebody out there knows better than Jesus? Ha! Fat chance...

He said the day and hour nobody will know... the year and the month, however, can most certainly be narrowed down and I do believe we're going to see it happen very, very, VERY soon.

We can certainly figure out the approximate time, but there's no way anybody on this screwed up earth is figuring out the actual day...

The only way we'll know is when it's already happening.

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Marantha believes the antichrist will be in Israel/end times will begin this week.

I believe that it's possible that the end times will begin this week (if this is the year). It begins with the removal of the church, casting down of the devil and armies into Israel, in other words - war.

Amo 3:7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.


Here's a prophecy:

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.


Here's 5 days before Passover, when Jesus' followers were doing the same thing:


John 12:12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,
13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.


Jesus said this:

Mar 13:35 "Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back--whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn.

Do you know why?

When it's midnight in Jerusalem, it's 6pm on the East coast of the USA.

The gathering is one moment in time, whether it's midnight in Israel or 6pm in New York or 3 pm in California. All of those are the exact same moment in time, by the way, even though they are two different days and different hours.