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<blockquote data-quote="mindlight" data-source="post: 76410653" data-attributes="member: 21246"><p>Selective reading, this report was submitted in May 2020 so might be a little out of date now and was a composite of a lot of estimates and unfinished reports. Perhaps I should not have included it in my list since it appears to be the only one you read and was the least favorable to my position overall. But even then he noted:</p><p></p><p><em>0.57% in locations with > 500 COVID-19 deaths/million people -</em> which is everywhere now (that would be 6 times higher than flu with a much higher transmission rate.</p><p></p><p>The WHO estimate of the time which I quoted from that report was:</p><p></p><p><em>Mathematical models have suggested that 40–81% of the world population could be infected,4,5 and have lowered the infection fatality rate to 1.0% or 0.9%.</em></p><p></p><p>As the BMA study, you ignored illustrated the variation between John P A Ioannidis composite study (average 0.26%), the Levin study (3.6%), Meyerowitz-Katz (0.68%) can mainly be explained by where the snapshots of the illness were taken. Early on in many places, it was young people who caught and carried the disease to others but they did not die of it. In the Summer months, young people get it more and again do not die of it. The more settled number is Meyerowitz-Katz which is about 7 times flu.</p><p></p><p>If you look at the graphs in the BMA study you can see what you are doing with the numbers. You take the lowest result from the lowest survey in the middle of Summer and called it definitive. The actual range changes over the year and by age range and is somewhere between 0,26 and 3.6 % depending on seasonal time and age group mix.</p><p></p><p><em>for Germany range <strong>from 0.756% [0.717%; 0.796%] by [5] to 1.687% [1.407%; 2.139%]</strong> by, reflecting the uncertainty regarding age-specific IFR.</em></p><p></p><p>Even if Ioannidis was right and it was only 0.26 % then that would still be 2.5 times flu and that with a disease that is not merely seasonal and far more transmissible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mindlight, post: 76410653, member: 21246"] Selective reading, this report was submitted in May 2020 so might be a little out of date now and was a composite of a lot of estimates and unfinished reports. Perhaps I should not have included it in my list since it appears to be the only one you read and was the least favorable to my position overall. But even then he noted: [I]0.57% in locations with > 500 COVID-19 deaths/million people -[/I] which is everywhere now (that would be 6 times higher than flu with a much higher transmission rate. The WHO estimate of the time which I quoted from that report was: [I]Mathematical models have suggested that 40–81% of the world population could be infected,4,5 and have lowered the infection fatality rate to 1.0% or 0.9%.[/I] As the BMA study, you ignored illustrated the variation between John P A Ioannidis composite study (average 0.26%), the Levin study (3.6%), Meyerowitz-Katz (0.68%) can mainly be explained by where the snapshots of the illness were taken. Early on in many places, it was young people who caught and carried the disease to others but they did not die of it. In the Summer months, young people get it more and again do not die of it. The more settled number is Meyerowitz-Katz which is about 7 times flu. If you look at the graphs in the BMA study you can see what you are doing with the numbers. You take the lowest result from the lowest survey in the middle of Summer and called it definitive. The actual range changes over the year and by age range and is somewhere between 0,26 and 3.6 % depending on seasonal time and age group mix. [I]for Germany range [B]from 0.756% [0.717%; 0.796%] by [5] to 1.687% [1.407%; 2.139%][/B] by, reflecting the uncertainty regarding age-specific IFR.[/I] Even if Ioannidis was right and it was only 0.26 % then that would still be 2.5 times flu and that with a disease that is not merely seasonal and far more transmissible. [/QUOTE]
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