Man Stabbed Over Chicken Sandwich

[Ana the Ist]

Man stabbed to death after argument over Popeyes chicken sandwich

A man was stabbed to death Monday at a Maryland Popeyes after he apparently cut a line for the restaurant's re-released chicken sandwich and argued with another man who confronted him, police said.

Kevin Tyrell Davis, 28, was stabbed outside the restaurant in Oxon Hill around 7p.m., the Prince George's County Police Department said. Davis was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Stabbed to death...over cutting in line for a chicken sandwich.

On the other hand, I've heard Popeye's is really popular in some circles.

 

[Zoii]

Man stabbed to death after argument over Popeyes chicken sandwich



Stabbed to death...over cutting in line for a chicken sandwich.

On the other hand, I've heard Popeye's is really popular in some circles.

Queue jumping is viewed very dimply in that area.

I gotta say I get super annoyed with queue jumpers - its a sign of arrogance. I wouldn't go so far as stabbing someone for it though.

 

[Not David]

Man stabbed to death after argument over Popeyes chicken sandwich



Stabbed to death...over cutting in line for a chicken sandwich.

On the other hand, I've heard Popeye's is really popular in some circles.

Someone got out of his car and broke a bus window the other day on my city. The coward ran away though.

 

[tall73]

Queue jumping is viewed very dimply in that area.

I gotta say I get super annoyed with queue jumpers - its a sign of arrogance. I wouldn't go so far as stabbing someone for it though.

Would a root cause analysis find that the gun was the problem?

 

[Zoii]

Would your root cause analysis find that the gun was the problem?

An RCA would look at quite a bit here:
Is this a serious question or is this just a poor attempt at sarcasm and flaming?

I'm happy to provide a serious answer because its a study area at university, but if your just being sarcastic because you can't be bothered with an intellectual answer, then I'll just leave it.

 

[iluvatar5150]

PG County, man

 

[tall73]

An RCA would look at quite a bit here:
Is this a serious question or is this just a poor attempt at sarcasm and flaming?

I'm happy to provide a serious answer because its a study area at university, but if your just being sarcastic because you can't be bothered with an intellectual answer, then I'll just leave it.

It is always up to you whether you will respond. But I would actually like to see your analysis. You suggested in the other thread a RCA would figure it out. However, then you referenced guns. But the guns seemed to be added onto the RCA.

And when Ana noted he could have used a different weapon, you noted it was not a different weapon. But this time it is a different weapon.

So are knives part of the problem here? Or guns? Or is the weapon not a factor at all here? And if it is not a factor here, why was it in the other?

 

[Zoii]

You can leave it if you like. But you talked about guns in the other thread, and then suggested that a RCA would figure it out. But the guns seemed to be added onto the RCA.

And when Ana noted he could have used a different weapon, you said he didn't.

So is the knife related? A gun? Or is this something different?

An RCA looks at what occurred. Not some other introduced scenario. So when a poster said he could have used a knife - an RCA would be objective and say " but he didn't - he used a gun" and analyse from there.

In this case - the RCA would focus on the use of a knife and all other aspects of this scenario -

An RCA looks at what occurs and why that was. Introducing something that didn't happen is ineffectual to the process.

Maybe it would be better for you to research what an RCA is.

 

[tall73]

An RCA looks at what occurred. Not some other introduced scenario. So when a poster said he could have used a knife - an RCA would be objective and say " but he didn't - he used a gun" and analyse from there.

In this case - the RCA would focus on the use of a knife and all other aspects of this scenario -

An RCA looks at what occurs and why that was. Introducing something that didn't happen is ineffectual to the process.

Maybe it would be better for you to research what an RCA is.

So last time you focused on the availability of guns in the culture, though in your RCA you seemed to refer more to poverty, employment, drugs, etc.

So are knives too prevalent?

What other root causes do you see?

 

[MehGuy]

He lived life on the edge.. Lived hard and died young.

 

[Zoii]

So last time you focused on the availability of guns in the culture, though in your RCA you seemed to refer more to poverty, employment, drugs, etc.

So are knives too prevalent?

What other root causes do you see?

An RCA would certainly look at the social constructs because in incidents like this, they are significant determinants. Lower socio economic status is unfortunately associated with higher levels or social unrest and violence.

As to what root causes I see - I'd have to know the precise details - but those investigating would look at the social aspects, the mechanism of the incident, the construct of the environment.

We had a lecture by an ex-Texan senator at my university. She described the RCA process at a major hospital that was exposed to a high level of violent incidences within its emergency department. They looked at the mechanical - ie how was the violence perpetrated, the social aspects eg demographics of perps, policies and procedures, existing controls etc etc. They tailored solutions to each of the root causes.

Resources play a big part - the guy who owns the store may only be able to manage his security a little better, but can do nothing about the demographic coming through his door, and nor can he do anything about the reason why so many of them are angry individuals.

He may be able to do something about his queues though. If that's found to be a root cause ie people getting angry because they are waiting a long time (which leads to queue jumping and conflicts) then he has a business practice issue that he needs to address.

But as for the angry demographic, thats more a social policy that belongs with local and state authorities.

 

[tall73]

An RCA would certainly look at the social constructs because in incidents like this, they are significant determinants. Lower socio economic status is unfortunately associated with higher levels or social unrest and violence.

As to what root causes I see - I'd have to know the precise details - but those investigating would look at the social aspects, the mechanism of the incident, the construct of the environment.

We had a lecture by an ex-Texan senator at my university. She described the RCA process at a major hospital that was exposed to a high level of violent incidences within its emergency department. They looked at the mechanical - ie how was the violence perpetrated, the social aspects eg demographics of perps, policies and procedures, existing controls etc etc. They tailored solutions to each of the root causes.

Resources play a big part - the guy who owns the store may only be able to manage his security a little better, but can do nothing about the demographic coming through his door, and nor can he do anything about the reason why so many of them are angry individuals.

He may be able to do something about his queues though. If that's found to be a root cause ie people getting angry because they are waiting a long time (which leads to queue jumping and conflicts) then he has a business practice issue that he needs to address.

But as for the angry demographic, thats more a social policy that belongs with local and state authorities.

So did access to a knife play a role?

Is there a study that we can look at regarding the lecture?

 

[tall73]

He may be able to do something about his queues though. If that's found to be a root cause ie people getting angry because they are waiting a long time (which leads to queue jumping and conflicts) then he has a business practice issue that he needs to address.

The rollout of the chicken sandwich was eagerly anticipated nation wide. I don't think he would have a lot of control over the rollout schedule, and the demand simply overwhelmed the ability to handle it. The story notes they had a separate line for the sandwich due to the unusual demand. But can we really say that long lines lead naturally to stabbings?

If that were the case I would think the DMV would be a scene of many stabbings.

 

[Zoii]

So did access to a knife play a role?

Is there a study that we can look at regarding the lecture?

the knife purported killed a man - Are you being obtuse?

Are you asking for a copy of the lecture notes? - seriously?

I tell you what - why don't you google Root Cause Analysis

 

[Zoii]

The story notes they had a separate line for the sandwich due to the unusual demand. But can we really say that long lines lead naturally to stabbings?

If that were the case I would think the DMV would be a scene of many stabbings.

Thats a question investigators would ask and it's a good one, because you don't want the same thing reoccurring.

All I can say that is within Emergency Departments world-wide, the answer to your question is YES. Long wait times lead to violence..... and other issues of course such as morbidity and mortality.

 

[tall73]

Lower socio economic status is unfortunately associated with higher levels or social unrest and violence.

Do you have demographic info for the perpetrator? He had a vehicle, a female companion, and apparently was believed to have two children with him. Beyond that, I don't know that we know much other than the photo.

the knife purported killed a man - Are you being obtuse?

I am not being obtuse. You gave great weight to the presence of the firearm in the previous thread when discussing your analysis. You said it was the elephant in the room for that story.

I am wondering what your analysis is here. Is it the elephant in the room again?

 

[tall73]

All I can say that is within Emergency Departments world-wide, the answer to your question is YES. Long wait times lead to violence..... and other issues of course such as morbidity and mortality.

Can you clarify. Do you mean that lines in various locations lead to injury due to anger that then wind up being treated in the ER? Or do you mean that long waits in the ER lead to anger within the confines of the ER?

 

[tall73]

Are you asking for a copy of the lecture notes? - seriously?

You referenced it as an example. I wondered if you had the details.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

This shows how decayed a society can get when they do not have Jesus Christ in their lives. I am not talking about self professing Christians who do not abide in Christ. I am talking about those who ABIDE in Christ and His good ways. Jesus told us to love our enemies. We are to do good in return to those who have wronged us.

 

[Zoii]

Do you have demographic info for the perpetrator? He had a vehicle, a female companion, and apparently was believed to have two children with him. Beyond that, I don't know that we know much other than the photo.



I am not being obtuse. You gave great weight to the presence of the firearm in the previous thread when discussing your analysis. You said it was the elephant in the room for that story.

I am wondering what your analysis is here. Is it the elephant in the room again?

It was an elephant because everything was discussed other than the fact that there is access to lethal weapons. It has to be accounted for in an assessment of an incident like this. I'm struggling why you can't see the sense in this. If you have a very high rate of stabbings, you would want your state to examine means by which this issue can be addressed. So too with guns, though I acknowledge there is significant resistance to doing anything in regards to controlling guns - so be it - its your country.

In this instance, arent you concerned that someone is carrying a lethal weapon (not sure if its a knife or some pointed object) and willing to use it?

As for his demographics - fine - the RCA would examine it and if its an issue/trend account for it in an analysis.

What has you confused in all this:
The process? The weapon used in each case? Why your confusion?
Or is it you are wanting to push the agenda of "its ok to have a weapon." if that's your point then - OK - Got it - You support carrying a weapon.