Man in women's locker room cites gender rule

[Armoured]

Going back to the OP.

You get off the coach at the service station. You're bursting to go. There is a long queue outside the Ladies but no queue for the Gents. Just as your starting to point Percy a group of women come into the Gents and dash into the cubicles muttering "Don't worry lads we've seen it all before.

Happened to me loads of times. No harm there other than a temporary disruption of the flow.

When you've got to go you've got to go. But what if it was the other way round?

If it were the other way around, everyone peeing would be in a cubicle.

 

[Jonathan Jarvis]

True but very crowded.

 

[Mayzoo]

If you can't or refuse to learn then why participate?

I learn a lot here. One of the many things I have learned is how to prioritize my time management. If someone makes a claim that they have not thought out well, they do not support it. If they make a claim that does not hold value to them, they do not support it. If someone makes a claim they know is false, but they hope at least one or two people will believe it because it is in writing, they do not support it.

I learned not use my valuable time doing their work. If their point held ANY value to the poster, they would have supported it. Since they choice to not support their own claim, their point was not important to them or worth their own time to support it, so why should I consider it any more important than they themselves did?

I also learned a long time ago: those who choose to avoid doing their own work actually work harder at avoiding working than if they had just done the work to begin with. You have worked 15-20 times harder making excuses why you should not have to support your own claims. Had you simply done the right thing to start with, you would be way past this and on to more profitable aspects of this discussion. Instead you are still working very hard to make excuses for your choice to not do your own work. You could have made the one post with the citation, then gone on to intelligently discuss that. Instead, some 15 posts later, you are still making excuses for the one post you failed to complete. It simply is harder not to do it right the first time. That is a hard lesson to learn, but an invaluable lesson none the less.

I am done and can move on. You cannot. Good luck with your choices and may your lesson come easier in life than some.

 

[Mayzoo]

Going back to the OP.

You get off the coach at the service station. You're bursting to go. There is a long queue outside the Ladies but no queue for the Gents. Just as your starting to point Percy a group of women come into the Gents and dash into the cubicles muttering "Don't worry lads we've seen it all before.

Happened to me loads of times. No harm there other than a temporary disruption of the flow.

When you've got to go you've got to go. But what if it was the other way round?

Twice in my life a man has come into the women's restroom. The world did not stop piviting on it's axis', the polar ice caps did not melt, and no one purity was stolen. I did not even faint dead away or devolve into a neurotic fit.

I guess I am just a weirdo. I merely thought they had made an error or the men's room was out of order. My life was not altered in the slightest.

 

[TheNorwegian]

... the polar ice caps did not melt ...

But the ice caps are melting. In fact, I think we can see a strong correlation between the melting of the ice caps and the rise in transgender awareness and LBGT right. Just saying

 

[Mayzoo]

But the ice caps are melting. In fact, I think we can see a strong correlation between the melting of the ice caps and the rise in transgender awareness and LBGT right. Just saying

Ah yes, but there was not a correlation between them coming in, using the restroom and leaving and any increase in the melting. This was about 30 years ago after all. The other event was about 20 years ago. Those 3 minute events did not alter the melting rate in the slightest. I did not even read or hear about them coming in on the news. Can you imagine??

 

[Mayzoo]

If you can't or refuse to learn then why participate?

Only quoting part of my post, then intentionally taking it out of context, is called intellectual dishonesty:

"Intellectual Dishonesty

What is meant when one uses this term? Some possible meanings:

When one avoids an honest, deliberate and comprehensive approach to a matter because it may introduce an adverse effect on personally and professionally held views and beliefs."

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?IntellectualDishonesty

The rest of my post clearly shows I take into consideration all the facts provided, do my own research, come to a conclusion, formulate a post, then provide resources for my own conclusions. Those are the hallmark traits of learning.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Why don't women just go into the men's locker room. You don't hear much about that happening. I wonder why......

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf...-state-makes-illegal-ask-man-womens-restroom/

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[Blondepudding]

Not at all surprising.

Man in women's locker room cites gender rule



http://www.king5.com/story/news/loc...omens-locker-room-cites-gender-rule/80478058/

The most disturbing part?

 

[MehGuy]

Twice in my life a man has come into the women's restroom. The world did not stop piviting on it's axis', the polar ice caps did not melt, and no one purity was stolen. I did not even faint dead away or devolve into a neurotic fit.

I guess I am just a weirdo. I merely thought they had made an error or the men's room was out of order. My life was not altered in the slightest.

Yeah I see women sometimes using the male bathroom.. we men are like ok.. a little strange but not the end of the world.

 

[Uncle Siggy]

I am done and can move on. You cannot.

I moved on years ago that's why I don't play the citation game, most people that ask for them just to get you to waste your time so they can claim "not credible, ignorant" or some other such bilge...

Oh BTW having a citation doesn't actually mean it's the truth it's only what "YOU" believe the truth to be, in some peoples case it's just the propaganda they want to push because of their political ideology...

 

[Uncle Siggy]

Only quoting part of my post, then intentionally taking it out of context, is called intellectual dishonesty:

"Intellectual Dishonesty

What is meant when one uses this term? Some possible meanings:

When one avoids an honest, deliberate and comprehensive approach to a matter because it may introduce an adverse effect on personally and professionally held views and beliefs."

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?IntellectualDishonesty

The rest of my post clearly shows I take into consideration all the facts provided, do my own research, come to a conclusion, formulate a post, then provide resources for my own conclusions. Those are the hallmark traits of learning.

Only quoting part of the post makes it easier to get the other person to see the point you're trying to make, if they can't/won't then "oh well"...

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/chip+on+shoulder

 

[Mayzoo]

Only quoting part of the post makes it easier to get the other person to see the point you're trying to make, if they can't/won't then "oh well"...

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/chip+on+shoulder

God bless you and I hope you had a great weekend and a better week to come!

Romans 12:17-21

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil.Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.19 Do not take revenge,my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,says the Lord.20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head"

21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

 

[rjs330]

Twice in my life a man has come into the women's restroom. The world did not stop piviting on it's axis', the polar ice caps did not melt, and no one purity was stolen. I did not even faint dead away or devolve into a neurotic fit.

I guess I am just a weirdo. I merely thought they had made an error or the men's room was out of order. My life was not altered in the slightest.

No but there is a thing called common decency. Common decency and proper decorum is something we have lost in this country. Modesty has gone by the wayside and this is an example of what we have lost.

 

[Laury]

No but there is a thing called common decency. Common decency and proper decorum is something we have lost in this country. Modesty has gone by the wayside and this is an example of what we have lost.

Common decency would be to NOT think a woman is a pervert just because she has a penis and wants to go to a public restroom.

 

[Mayzoo]

No but there is a thing called common decency. Common decency and proper decorum is something we have lost in this country. Modesty has gone by the wayside and this is an example of what we have lost.

Common decency says do not refuse to allow someone access to a restroom when they need to urinate. If the men's room is out of order, it is indecent to refuse to allow to men access to the women's restroom and visa versa. If, if, if anything....if someone needs to use the restroom, they need to use the restroom. Common decency is to allow them access to a restroom; not offer them a tree or a bush.

In my personal case, I have a 14 yo special needs daughter who cannot use a restroom unattended. Is it common decency that society dictates her father is not allowed to go out in public alone with her for fear she may need to use the restroom? I did not mention the "atrocity" of the time the caregiver asked my permission to bring her adult male charge in to the women's restroom because he could not use a restroom alone and she could go into the men's room. Should I have refused then? Is that the decenct thing to do?

Why is it immodest for a man to walk into a women's restroom? You are aware women are not visibly undressed in a restroom, right? Is it immodest for a man to walk into any other room women are in?

IMO, what we have lost is common sense. All people need to use the restroom. All people, including special needs children and adults, should have access to restrooms.

 

[Mayzoo]

Common decency would be to NOT think a woman is a pervert just because she has a penis and wants to go to a public restroom.

Nor would it be decent to assume a father escorting his special needs daughter to a woman's stall to use the restroom is a pervert; however, not only is he a pervert in today's world, he is a criminal and likely will be arrested, his child will be taken into the care system and an investigation will then ensue. He will henceforth have a criminal record which might affect his job and his residence (only for those who rent). The mother will get the child back, but the expense, time, and criminal record the father now has is simply ridiculous all because he wanted to go out into public alone with his child. This is why my hubby has not been out alone with our kiddo in almost 11 years.

 

[Glass*Soul]

But most of them LOOK like the gender they're trying to be. I don't see why transgendered people can't just wait a bit and use the room that they most resemble. And if they're in some in-between state, just go by genitals. The whole bathroom thing is really childish.

Considering that transgender people are more likely to be verbally or physically assaulted when they use the bathroom that matches their genitals, I have to wonder who it is that you feel is being being childish.

 

[grandvizier1006]

Considering that transgender people are more likely to be verbally or physically assaulted when they use the bathroom that matches their genitals, I have to wonder who it is that you feel is being being childish.

I keep being told that, but where is it happening? I went into the women's room with my mom as a kid all the time and no one attacked me. And quite, frankly, if I'm going into a bathroom to pee, I'll probably just say, "hey, this is the wrong room" if a woman appears. If she insists on being transgendered then I'll just say, "well, your get-up is a bit lacking."

I don't know of anyone being childish about transgendered people in bathrooms except transgendered people themselves. How many of them have really been attacked in bathrooms, anyway? Not many. But now, because of them, we can't even have something as basic as men's and women's restrooms. Every bathroom has to be one of those one-toilet co-Ed ones all because a small segment of a population is afraid of what COULD happen.

And most of the time they're not using the bathroom that matches the genitals. They use whichever one they feel like. Genital alteration comes last in the process and Some of them don't even go for it. So you've got a man with breast implants and women's clothes sitting down on a toilet. If he closes the stall door and stays quiet then no one will bother him and will think he's a woman.

 

[Mayzoo]

I keep being told that, but where is it happening? I went into the women's room with my mom as a kid all the time and no one attacked me. And quite, frankly, if I'm going into a bathroom to pee, I'll probably just say, "hey, this is the wrong room" if a woman appears. If she insists on being transgendered then I'll just say, "well, your get-up is a bit lacking."

I don't know of anyone being childish about transgendered people in bathrooms except transgendered people themselves. How many of them have really been attacked in bathrooms, anyway? Not many. But now, because of them, we can't even have something as basic as men's and women's restrooms. Every bathroom has to be one of those one-toilet co-Ed ones all because a small segment of a population is afraid of what COULD happen.

And most of the time they're not using the bathroom that matches the genitals. They use whichever one they feel like. Genital alteration comes last in the process and Some of them don't even go for it. So you've got a man with breast implants and women's clothes sitting down on a toilet. If he closes the stall door and stays quiet then no one will bother him and will think he's a woman.

Here is a broad google search: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&q=transgender+attacked+in+bathroom

If you want specific links here a few:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_of_Chrissy_Lee_Polis

http://www.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2...and-assaulted-in-public-bathrooms-survey-says

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/04/transgender-teen-assaulted-bathroom_n_4899398.html