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Man evolved equal?

selfinflikted

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Sure. But that doesn't mean we can't understand the process. I was mainly calling attention to the flaw in the argument that if we can't reproduce an entire spare universe then the theory can't be tested at all. It is clearly nonsense.

It's true. I just didn't want him to get the wrong idea about "predictions." :thumbsup:
 
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Perhaps I interpreted him incorrectly?

I assumed when he meant reproducing earth in a properly equiped laboratory he was including life in the reproduction, as life is known only to exist on earth.

I probably just misunderstood you. I have a bad habit of that. ;)
 
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It's true. I just didn't want him to get the wrong idea about "predictions." :thumbsup:

The whole kit and kaboodle can't be reproduced. Obviously.

(And if it could, at that point I'd rather be playing with my universe generator than doing science - bit like Minecraft or something, I suppose)

But we can still test parts of the process. And so far every test of evolution has supported it.

Sure - some day we may find a test that countermands it, and a better theory will need to be found. Does that mean we'll suddenly find Yahweh going "cooee"? Most unlikely.

I'll list the number of times god-of-the-gaps has ever worked.

Finished!
 
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But we can still test parts of the process.

Of course. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Like you said, even if we can't recreate the processes ourselves we certainly can understand the processes.

I'll list the number of times god-of-the-gaps has ever worked.

Finished!

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Evidence?

The evidence is from the Evolutionists themselves , as follows. (What is the only other alternative to the charade of abiogenesis and macro evolution ?) Further, you know God exists from the obvious complexity of your Human Anatomy , DNA internal workings and messages, etc... Its just a case of you putting aside your pride to want God in your life. It means admitting youre a Sinner whos made some very bad choices so far in your life . Only YOU can determine if your pride will win out or not .





" It is therefore a MATTER OF FAITH on the part of the biologist that
biogenesis (evolution) did occur and he can choose whatever method of
biogenesis happens to suit him personally ; the evidence for what did
happen is not available" --- Evolutionist Prof. G.A. Kerkut of the
University of Southampton. Source : Implications of Evolution. London.
Pergamon Press, 1960, page 150.



" The more one studies paleontology, the more certain one becomes that
evolution is based on FAITH ALONE" -- Evolutionist Prof. T.L. Moor .
Origins ? The Banner of Truth Trust, 1988 page 22.



" We Palenontologists have said that the history of life supports (the
story of gradual adaptive change) , all the while really knowing that it
does not" -- Dr. Niles Eldredge. Darwin on Trial. Regnery Gateway,
1991, page 59.


" The record of reckless speculation of human origins is so astonishing
that it is legitimate to ask whether much science is yet to be found in
this field at all" -- Evolutionist Dr. Solly Zuckerman. Darwin on
Trial. 1991. page 82.

From an article in Science Digest Special---

" Scientists who utterly reject Evolution may be one of our fastest
growing controversial minorities ... Many of the scientists supporting
this posiiton hold impressive credentials in science" . -- Educators
Against Darwin. winter 1979, page 94



" I believe that one day the Darwinnian myth will be ranked the
greatest deciet in the history of science "--- Prof. Soren Lovtrup,
Embriologist. Darwinism : The Refutation of a Myth. 1987. page 422.

" The more i examine the Universe and the details of its architecture,
the more evidence i find that the Universe in some sense must have known
we were coming"--- Prof. Freeman Dyson, Physicist from Princeton Univ.
'Disturbing the Universe' . 1979. page 250.



" The more man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events, the
firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the side of
this ordered regularity for causes of a different nature (than a Creator)"
-- Albert Einstein. His LIfe and Times. page 286.

And finally, the bottom line from an "agnostic" Astronomer (and my
favorite) ----

" For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason,
the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of
ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak and as he pulls
himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of Theologians who
have been sitting there for centuries reading Genesis 1:1 : In the
Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth" --- agnostic Prof. Robert
Jastrow founder of Nasa's Goddard Institute. His book, 'God and the
Astronomers. page 116
 
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selfinflikted

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* groan *

At this point, I suppose the proper thing to do is ackkowledge that you two (selfinflikted and Gadarene) flat-out owned me on this one. I salute you...

No. I'm not here to "own" or "pwn" or whatever else. Just to learn, and help correct misinformation.

Oh. But 99.9% for the lulz.
 
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Evolution: the hottest hand of craps in the history of the universe...

* groan *

At this point, I suppose the proper thing to do is ackkowledge that you two (selfinflikted and Gadarene) flat-out owned me on this one. I salute you...

So do you accept now that evolution is the best fit explanation for the history of life on earth?
 
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No. I'm not here to "own" or "pwn" or whatever else. Just to learn, and help correct misinformation.

Oh. But 99.9% for the lulz.

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