Male Question

[seebs]

Are you sure you aren't just doing this for fun? Kinky!

 

[VOW]

I'm with seebs.

This appears to be heading into that "alternative satisfaction" mode.



Peace,
~VOW

 

[Smilin]

ummm...wrong thread...sorry...
jeeze what I land in the middle of sometimes....

 

[Caedmon]

Edit: Learning to let go, and let God...*

 

[seebs]

A select "few", I hope you mean. Or is this gonna be a webcam? ;-)

(Please don't take any of this as insulting or disagreeing; I just like to joke.)

 

[Caedmon]

Edit: Learning to let go, and let God...

 

[seebs]

Yeah. Sometimes, the best way to honor your father and mother is to show them that you're an adult capable of making your own decisions, and set them some limits.

 

[ZooMom]

You will apply various torturous devices to extremely sensitive parts of your anatomy to defy your parents, but you won't go to Midnight Mass?

Am I missing something here?





PS---Joe, you know I love you, brother, but I have to say that this baffles me.

 

[seebs]

I think it makes sense; he doesn't want to overtly pick fights, just yet, and there's something to be said for defiance that can't easily be denied or undone.

 

[VOW]

I'm with ZooMom.

Midnight Mass is a lot more COMFORTABLE, especially if you go early and get a good seat.

Clamps and weights on Mister Weewee is beyond my comprehension. He and his two best friends are so SENSITIVE!


Peace,
~VOW

 

[Caedmon]

Edit: Learning to let go, and let God...

 

[seebs]

Open heart surgery?!?!

And no, never read 7 Habits; I am allergic to that style of writing.

 

[Caedmon]

Edit: Learning to let go, and let God...

 

[kern]

Originally posted by VOW
He and his two best friends are so SENSITIVE!

Especially his two best friends! I can still remember a few times when I've sat down on a chair arm the wrong way, or I was standing up when I hit the brakes on the bicycle so the crossbar came back and hit me, or when I ran into the edge of a table....there's little that can compare with that in terms of sheer pain.

-Chris (the pilonidal cyst comes close though)

 

[Caedmon]

Edit: Learning to let go, and let God...

 

[Cliff Yablonski]

Originally posted by VOW
To seebs:

Medical research also shows that the WIVES of circumcized men experience fewer incidents of cervical cancer than those of uncircumcized men.

WRONG WRONG WRONG.

That is an old wife's tale that has been debunked. Nothing could be further from the truth. The original studies that made that bogus claim were statistically flawed. The difference can be accounted for in llifestyle choicces, not the status of your partners genitals. Here is a letter from the American Cancer Society stating their position.

AMERICAN
CANCER
SOCIETY NATIONAL HOME OFFICE



February 16, 1996



Dr. Peter Rappo
Committee on Practice & Ambulatory Medicine
American Academy of Pediatrics
141 Northwest Point Boulevard
P. O. Box 927
Elk Grove Village, IL 60009-0927

Dear Dr. Rappo:

As representatives of the American Cancer Society, we would like to
discourage the American Academy of Pediatrics from promoting routine
circumcision as preventative measure for penile or cervical cancer.
The American Cancer Society does not consider routine circumcision
to be a valid or effective measure to prevent such cancers.

Research suggesting a pattern in the circumcision status of partners
of women with cervical cancer is methodologically flawed, outdated and
has not been taken seriously in the medical community for decades.

Likewise, research claiming a relationship between circumcision and
penile cancer is inconclusive. Penile cancer is an extremely rare
condition, effecting one in 200,000 men in the United States. Penile
cancer rates in countries which do not practice circumcision are lower
than those found in the United States. Fatalities caused by
circumcision accidents may approximate the mortality rate from penile
cancer.

Portraying routine circumcision as an effective means of prevention
distracts the public from the task of avoiding the behaviors proven to
contribute to penile and cervical cancer: especially cigarette smoking
and unprotected sexual relations with multiple partners. Perpetuating
the mistaken belief that circumcision prevents cancer is inappropriate.

Sincerely,



Hugh Shingleton, M.D. Clark W. Heath, Jr., M.D.
National Vice President Vice President
Detection & Treatment Epidemiology & Surveillance Research



1599 CLIFTON ROAD, N.E., ATLANTA GEORGIA 30329 404-320-3333

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

I dunno, I figure that Mr Weewee gets guys in enough trouble as it is, remaining in the natural, more sensitive state would probably just add to this problem, heh.

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

Joe-

There are better ways to defy your parents than getting a Mr Weewee facelift.

 

[seebs]

I just have to say, that's the first time I've ever seen someone whose VERY FIRST POST was addressed to VOW and started out "WRONG WRONG WRONG" and not expected to see him banned instantly for Catholic-bashing.

 

[Cliff Yablonski]

Originally posted by humblejoe
I hope this question isn't too "controversial" or whatever, but I really would like to know the official Catholic stance.

Is circ-reversal/fs-restoration immoral, and why or why not?

It is not immoral at all. You have every right to want something back that was taken from you without your consent, for the purpose of curing problems that weren't there to begin with and probably never would have been. It is also important to note that there is increasing evidence that the circumcision that is done to children today is not the same operation that was done to Jewish children in the time of Christ and earlier. The procedure at that time only removed the very tip of the foreskin leaving the vast majority intact (Circumcision meaning to cut in a circle) in other words the foreskin was circumcised, NOT AMPUTATED which is what happens today. This only changed 100-200 years AFTER the life of Christ (Edwards, Allen "Erotica Judaica,, page 115). Ironically if you do this, you will be much closer to the state of Jews in antiquity than you are now. If you follow common sense (don't cause pain or constriction), and have patience, you can do this (take it from someone who knows). I am sorry if I have been too explicit in this post but there is so much misinformation surrounding this issue. The only Catholics who do this are some American and perhaps Phillipino, the rest of Europe and Latin America have lived without this for hundreds (in some cases thousands) of years without any problems.