Make Jesus Lord of Your Life

[EternallyKeptByJesus]

Can any one show me a scripture that proves that you have to Make Jesus Lord of your life for salvation. Romans 10:9 is the verse most people use to justify that statement but that is not what the verse says. It says if you confess the Lord Jesus or in other translations that Jesus is Lord. That is a confession of being, not a confession of what you have to do for salvation.

I am not disputing that Jesus is Lord. That is a fact. Furthermore, I have never met anyone who genuinely has faith in God or a god, where they saw themselves as being anything other than the servant or at least underneath the rule of their deity. Even if they did not live like they should, no one has ever had the devil's view of I will usurp God or I refuse to submit to the rule of my deity.

The assumption that just because someone does not say the words, I make Jesus Lord of my life is not saved or has not received salvation is bogused. Because that phrase "Make Jesus Lord of your life", does not exist in scripture, unless someone has clear scripture that shows that phrase exists and is in connection to salvation.

I am not implying that anyone who has said that as part of salvation is not saved. If you have been around a number of different churches and or crusades, you will quickly see that everyone has a different prayer for getting someone saved. If we hold to an idea that one has to pray just one particular way for salvation than most people are not saved, which I do not believe.

I think its all a matter of what the person believed in their heart when they asked God to save them

For the most part it appears that this phrase is used to imply works as being part of salvation instead of it being a free gift apart from works.

Its sort of like the phrase "repent of sin", that phrase does not exist in the Bible. So using that phrase in salvation is false doctrine. Even further the actual meaning of repent in the greek is just change your mind. I go by the original language not by Websters dictionary.

So does anyone know a scripture that actually says "Make Jesus Lord of your life" in connection with getting saved?

 

[Micah888]

Can any one show me a scripture that proves that you have to Make Jesus Lord of your life for salvation.

When people ask for *proof* about something in Christianity they are taking a rationalistic approach to Bible truth. Atheists constantly ask for proof of the existence of God, even though the proof is all around them. Because the natural man does not discern the things of the Spirit.

But the *proof* is right there in Scripture. To bow the knee to Christ in total submission and humility is to make Him Lord of your life. And if He is not your Lord, then He cannot be your Savior.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (Isa 9:6)

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. (Isa 45:22,23)

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. (Rom 14:11)

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Phil 2:9-11).

It looks to me that you wish to keep promoting and pushing the false doctrine of Easy Believism. That does not help either sinner or saint, since it is a false gospel.

 

[Apologetic_Warrior]

Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

Phil 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Luke 6:46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say?

Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths.

Of course from where I stand, God does the "making", He initializes, He authors and finishes salvation. Salvation is often presented in a way that we have to chose, and we do but only after God has made that possible, by imparting regeneration, faith, justification, and sealing with the Spirit who brings the believer to repentance do we choose. And so the choice, though it is a choice is not a choice in the normal sense, it is a one way choice, otherwise the immutable omniscience of God can be thwarted by the choice of man, considering Christ first loved us, and that from all eternity before the foundation of the world.

 

[EternallyKeptByJesus]

When people ask for *proof* about something in Christianity they are taking a rationalistic approach to Bible truth. Atheists constantly ask for proof of the existence of God, even though the proof is all around them. Because the natural man does not discern the things of the Spirit.

But the *proof* is right there in Scripture. To bow the knee to Christ in total submission and humility is to make Him Lord of your life. And if He is not your Lord, then He cannot be your Savior.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (Isa 9:6)

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. (Isa 45:22,23)

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. (Rom 14:11)

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Phil 2:9-11).

It looks to me that you wish to keep promoting and pushing the false doctrine of Easy Believism. That does not help either sinner or saint, since it is a false gospel.

If you opened your eyes you would see your works salvation is what is false doctrine. But it's not like I am expecting anything. Even your premise is false.

As I stated, the question of God and Jesus being Lord is not in question but rather the phrase "Make Jesus Lord as part of salvation" Because it adds your false notion of works salvation which Paul has clearly state is of wrong and all your twisting of reason will not change that.

Eph 2:8&9 make that disctinctly clear and any other verse you have used is taken out of context to justify the false idea of works salvation.
But isn't it just like some one who can not prove their point concretely, they have to find other ways to twist truth to invent false precepts.

You have not nor can you prove that works is a condition of salvation. So your answer in a reverse psychology way has proven my point. You have no scripture to say "Make Jesus Lord" for salvation.

Everyone who come to God, comes to Him as Lord, that is basic, but the phrase for the false works salvationist does not exist.

 

[EternallyKeptByJesus]

Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

Phil 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Luke 6:46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say?

Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths.

Of course from where I stand, God does the "making", He initializes, He authors and finishes salvation. Salvation is often presented in a way that we have to chose, and we do but only after God has made that possible, by imparting regeneration, faith, justification, and sealing with the Spirit who brings the believer to repentance do we choose. And so the choice, though it is a choice is not a choice in the normal sense, it is a one way choice, otherwise the immutable omniscience of God can be thwarted by the choice of man, considering Christ first loved us, and that from all eternity before the foundation of the world.

Okay? But that did not really answer the question.

 

[drjean]

I have always questioned it also. Because so many have said you must make Jesus Lord and Savior for salvation.... but the Lord part comes BECAUSE of your salvation, making Him your Savior. You cannot make Him Lord prior to your conversion, imo.

The way to learn is to first compare Scripture with Scripture, but discerning it correctly. Just as Paul did not preach baptism, only salvation, I do not find his gospel message to say to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior---at least not every time he preached the gospel if at all. IF it were required, scholarly theological thought is God would be sure to include it each and every time, yes?
(The same holds true for Jesus' Words He spoke as well... "believe", "born again" and such are not always accompanied with 'baptize". )

(PS the LORD is not the same as Lord. LORD is an OT way of denoting the Almighty Triune God. Lord in the NT unless otherwise mentioned as maybe a lord over a farm etc, refers to Jesus the Christ/Messiah.)

 

[Micah888]

If you opened your eyes you would see your works salvation is what is false doctrine.

So when someone presents Bible truth it becomes *works salvation*, but when someone preaches Easy Believism that become the true Gospel? Amazing how the Gospel has been altered to tickle the ears!

Salvation by grace through faith DEMANDS that Christ be received by the sinners as BOTH Lord and Christ. Any other gospel is a false gospel and should not be tolerated.

Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both LORD and Christ. (Acts 2:36)

And they said, Believe on the LORD Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16:31).

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the LORD Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Rom 10:9)

For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same LORD over all is rich unto all that call upon him. (Rom 10:12)

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD shall be saved. (Rom 10:13)

The resurrection of Christ established Him as LORD. It was in His death, burial, and resurrection that He destroyed the works of the Devil, and gained total victory over sin, death, Hades, Hell, and Satan. Therefore Christians must speak of Him now as the LORD Jesus Christ. And that reinforces the fact that He is GOD.

 

[EternallyKeptByJesus]

I have always questioned it also. Because so many have said you must make Jesus Lord and Savior for salvation.... but the Lord part comes BECAUSE of your salvation, making Him your Savior. You cannot make Him Lord prior to your conversion, imo.

The way to learn is to first compare Scripture with Scripture, but discerning it correctly. Just as Paul did not preach baptism, only salvation, I do not find his gospel message to say to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior---at least not every time he preached the gospel if at all. IF it were required, scholarly theological thought is God would be sure to include it each and every time, yes?
(The same holds true for Jesus' Words He spoke as well... "believe", "born again" and such are not always accompanied with 'baptize". )

(PS the LORD is not the same as Lord. LORD is an OT way of denoting the Almighty Triune God. Lord in the NT unless otherwise mentioned as maybe a lord over a farm etc, refers to Jesus the Christ/Messiah.)

Yeah I have heard something like that before. Like in Ro 10:9, that the real name of Jesus, is really Joseph, a common name. So for a Jew to call this "Joseph" is Lord is to say I was wrong and I change my mind, this Joseph from Galilee is the Messiah and God. It was not a works salvation concept but rather identifying that this man is not just a man but God.

That would be major to anyone who knew of Jesus but did not acknowledge at that time, that he is Messiah and God.

Nice to hear that I am not alone in feeling the struggle with hearing preachers and evangelist that constantly say make Jesus Lord. What gets worse to me is how at other times they are grace only preachers and they will say make Jesus Lord is just accepting Him as savior.

To me that is messing with my mind sometimes because they are saying one thing and then turning around and saying another. I think its like the Galatians, who has bewitched you. There can be so much push for the false concept of works salvation that the peer pressure can bewitch us, even the preacher.

 

[EternallyKeptByJesus]

So when someone presents Bible truth it becomes *works salvation*, but when someone preaches Easy Believism that become the true Gospel? Amazing how the Gospel has been altered to tickle the ears!

Salvation by grace through faith DEMANDS that Christ be received by the sinners as BOTH Lord and Christ. Any other gospel is a false gospel and should not be tolerated.

Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both LORD and Christ. (Acts 2:36)

And they said, Believe on the LORD Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16:31).

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the LORD Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Rom 10:9)

For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same LORD over all is rich unto all that call upon him. (Rom 10:12)

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD shall be saved. (Rom 10:13)

The resurrection of Christ established Him as LORD. It was in His death, burial, and resurrection that He destroyed the works of the Devil, and gained total victory over sin, death, Hades, Hell, and Satan. Therefore Christians must speak of Him now as the LORD Jesus Christ. And that reinforces the fact that He is GOD.

You have proven nothing and not answered the question. His Lordship is not in dispute.