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National Sunday law - RationalWikiYou do not know your history as well as you think you do.
“Question: How prove you that the church had power to command feasts and holydays?
“Answer: By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of and therefore they fondly contradict themselves by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same church.
“Question: Have you any other way of proving that the church has power to institute festivals of precept?
“Answer: Had she not such power, she could not a done that in which all modern religionists agree with her; -she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day of the week, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.” Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism On the Obedience Due to the Church, 3rd edition, Chapter 2, p. 174 (Imprimatur, John Cardinal McCloskey, Archbishop of New York).
“The Catholic church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday...The Protestant World at its birth found the Christian Sabbath too strongly entrenched to run counter to its existence; it was therefore placed under the necessity of acquiescing in the arrangement, thus implying the (Catholic) Church’s right to change the day, for over three hundred years. The Christian Sabbath is therefore to this day, the acknowledged offspring of the Catholic Church as spouse of the Holy Ghost, without a word of remonstrance from the Protestant World.” James Cardinal Gibbons in the Catholic Mirror, September 23, 1983.
“Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
The first Sunday law: Emperor Constantine was never an official Pope: Official line of succession goes from Paul to Linus to Anacletus. However, he is the first acknowledged Christian to institute Sunday observance laws.
The text of Constantine's Sunday Law of 321 A.D. is :
"On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost. (Given the 7th day of March, Crispus and Constantine being consuls each of them the second time." Codex Justinianus, lib. 3, tit. 12, 3; translated in History of the Christian Church, Philip Schaff, D.D., (7-vol.ed.) Vol. III, p.380. New York, 1884
But the Christians kept the 7th day Sabbath at first. When Christians began to be confused with Jews is when the change took place---they did not want to be associated with the Jews and adopted Sunday instead of the 7th day Sabbath. It is why the Christians began distancing themselves from Jews, it was the easiest thing to do.
Sabbath keepers throughout history
Sabbath Observance Through The Centuries - The Second Century A.D.
PAUL
"And Paul, as his manner was went in unto them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the Scriptures" (Acts 17:2) Did Christ fail to inform Paul on the road to Damascus that there's now a new sabbath? Or rather does the silence of Christ speak volumes against the papal sabbath???
PAUL AND THE GENTILES
"And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath. And the next Sabbath came almost the whole city together to hear the Word of God." Acts 13:42, 44.
Here we find Gentiles in a Gentile city gathering on the Sabbath. It was not a synagogue meeting in verse 44, for it says almost the whole city came together, verse 42 says they asked to hear the message the "next Sabbath."
And get this: The Bible does not say it is the "old Jewish Sabbath that was passed away," but the Spirit of God, writing the Book of Acts some 30 years after the crucifixion, calls it "the next Sabbath."
JOHN
"I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day." Rev.1:10 (Mark 2:28, Isa.58:13, Ex.20:10, Clearly show the Sabbath to be the Lord's day).
The term "Lord's day" in reference to sunday came later. The Biblical meaning for Lord's day is the day that God calls "My holy day" and the day that Jesus said He is Lord of.
JOSEPHUS
"There is not any city of the Grecians, nor any of the Barbarians, nor any nation whatsoever, whither our custom of resting on the seventh day hath not come!" M'Clatchie, "Notes and Queries on China and Japan" (edited by Dennys), Vol 4, Nos 7, 8, p.100.
PHILO
Declares the seventh day to be a festival, not of this or of that city, but of the universe. M'Clatchie, "Notes and Queries," Vol. 4, 99
So we have incontrovertible proof that the observance of sunday was NOT practiced by the apostolic church of the first century. Although the poison of apostasy had already begun, it did not reach the ascendancy until the passage of a few more centuries.
The next installment will show the historical record of the early christians observing the true seventh day Sabbath in the second century A.D.
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EARLY CHRISTIANS - 2nd Century
"The primitive Christians had a great veneration for the Sabbath, and spent the day in devotion and sermons. And it is not to be doubted but they derived this practice from the Apostles themselves, as appears by several scriptures to the purpose." "Dialogues on the Lord's Day," p. 189. London: 1701, By Dr. T.H. Morer (A Church of England divine).
EARLY CHRISTIANS - 2nd Century
"...The Sabbath was a strong tie which united them with the life of the whole people, and in keeping the Sabbath holy they followed not only the example but also the command of Jesus." "Geschichte des Sonntags," pp.13, 14
EARLY CHRISTIANS - 2nd Century
"The Gentile Christians observed also the Sabbath," Gieseler's "Church History," Vol.1, ch. 2, par. 30, 93.
EARLY CHRISTIANS - 2nd Century
"The primitive Christians did keep the Sabbath of the Jews;...therefore the Christians, for a long time together, did keep their conventions upon the Sabbath, in which some portions of the law were read: and this continued till the time of the Laodicean council." "The Whole Works" of Jeremy Taylor, Vol. IX,p. 416 (R. Heber's Edition, Vol XII, p. 416).
EARLY CHRISTIANS - 2nd Century
"It is certain that the ancient Sabbath did remain and was observed (together with the celebration of the Lord's day) by the Christians of the East Church, above three hundred years after our Saviour's death." "A Learned Treatise of the Sabbath," p. 77
Note: By the "Lord's day" here the writer means Sunday and not the true Sabbath," which the Bible says is the Sabbath. This quotation shows Sunday coming into use in the early centuries soon after the death of the Apostles. It illustrates the apostasy that Paul the Apostle foretold of when he spoke about a great "falling away" from the Truth that would take place soon after his death.
"From the apostles' time until the council of Laodicea, which was about the year 364, the holy observance of the Jews' Sabbath continued, as may be proved out of many authors: yea, notwithstanding the decree of the council against it." "Sunday a Sabbath." John Ley, p.163. London: 1640.
Sunday observance as a way to distance themselves from the Jews was seen as early as AD 110:
If, therefore, those who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e., the Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death … (Ignatius, Letter to the Magnesians 9)
That in no way has anything to do with what the bible says is the Sabbath. I have been waiting for over 35 years for that one verse that says: God has changed His 7th day Sabbath from the 7th day to the 1st day of the week,. Any argument about it would be over.
What God has written with His own hand on stone--only He can change.
That is all fine and good.
But the most holy portion of the sanctuary is about judgment and that is what Jesus our High Priest is doing today.
We will be judged by the law of GOD which is in the ark of the testament which is below the mercy seat.
1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Exodus 25
8 And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.
9 According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.
Jesus showed Moses the tabernacle in Heaven.
Revelation 22:12
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
The reward is eternal life or destruction. Our Judge, Jesus Christ, makes the decision which reward we will receive.
I can share more about how Jesus in the Heavenly sanctuary is paralleling the High priest's duties in the earth sanctuary if you are interested.
Psalm 77:13
Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?
Your missing the point altogether.
The Roman world did not honor a Sabbath day during the early fourth century when Constantine declared Sunday as a rest day for the Roman empire.
The Roman world in the preceding centuries did not have a day of rest until Constantine's legislation in 321 AD.
A Roman Christian could not observe a day of rest on a Saturday because they worked seven says a week, before that declaration by Constantine in 321 AD.
Early Christian literature in the first few centuries that comment on Sabbath days. Are not talking about Romans resting on Saturday because the Roman world, did not have a day of rest in any week of the year.
You may have misunderstood the early church authors, when they mention Sabbath days. They are referring to a holy day but not a day of rest, same goes for the first day in the Roman Empire.
Constantine allowed Christians to go to church on Sunday with His declaration. Before Constantine's declaration Christians rose early in the morning before work to break the bread.
There were certainly no Romans taking Saturday off within the Roman Empire before 321 AD.
I'm not ignoring the Sabbath dialogue during history, just attempting to rectify a deep misunderstanding that exists.
This is simply not true.
There was no day of rest in the Roman Empire for a Christian before Constantine. You misunderstand what Constantine's declaration is doing, Constantine is saying Christians can go to church during the day on Sunday!
Impossible during the centuries before Constantine for any Roman citizen. There was no day of rest before Constantine.
That is what you have been taught and that is one of the available interpretations.
You understand that the Protestants rejected the seven letters written by Ignatius don't you.
These days the majority of scholars do not reject the letters of Ignatius anymore, they are now valid letters.
Letter to the Magnesians, chapter nine.
If, therefore, those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death.
St. Justin is the first Christian writer to call the day Sunday (I Apol., lxvii) in the celebrated passage in which he describes the worship offered by the early Christians on that day to God. The fact that they met together and offered public worship on Sunday necessitated a certain rest from work on that day. However, Tertullian (202) is the first writer who expressly mentions the Sunday rest: "We, however (just as tradition has taught us), on the day of the Lord's Resurrection ought to guard not only against kneeling, but every posture and office of solicitude, deferring even our businesses lest we give any place to the devil" ("De orat.", xxiii; cf. "Ad nation.", I, xiii; "Apolog.", xvi).CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: SundayI already stated Constantine w....
Did you notice, 'and, if they can, resting then as Christians'. So it appears that not all Christians could even rest on Sunday let alone on Saturday.
The council of Laodicea was not held until 364 AD which is some thirty years after the edict by Constantine in 321 AD.
I have previously researched the council of Laodicea.
Once again the same critical error exists. If Christians are resting on the Sabbath day, then Saturday must have been a rest day in the Roman Empire. So the Roman Empire must have had Saturday and Sunday as rest days in 364 AD?
I am aware that the Sabbath was a rest day in Israel in the first century. But I have no historical sources to confirm that the Sabbath day, was a day of rest in the Roman Empire during the first century.
One could attend a synagogue on the Sabbath day but a day of rest on the Sabbath would not be possible. For any Roman citizens in the first century; this is the reason for Constantine's declaration in the fourth century. Constantine declared a day of rest on Sunday but not for everyone.
There seems to be so much historical confusion.
I am not judging anyone, just polite discussion.
Rest of your quotes do not prove that a Pope changed the day of worship.
Um. Maybe God.
Can you support your comment for us.?
What a wonderful, thoughtful argument.Um. Maybe God.
What a wonderful, thoughtful argument.
None of your proof texts proves that Jesus is writing down people's sins.
Since, Jesus is God and as such is all knowing there is no need for him to do that.
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