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Which answers the who to your question.AFAIK Able was killed before he had any children, I think you are thinking of Seth.
Shechem being Holy, even unto the 4th and 5 generationGog A Reubenite ( 1 Chronicles 5:4 ), the father of Shimei. Gog Definition and Meaning - Bible Dictionary
Forgive me for addressing the topographical aspect aside from the numerical composition of The Royal Torah.From another thread here it was brought up about Magog, didn't want to derail that because there's much to look into.
We first find it in Genesis in the genealogy found there after the flood.
1 Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.
2 The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
3.The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.
4. The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
5 From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.
We have Seven sons of Japheth
- Gomer
- Magog
- Madia
- Javan
- Tubal
- Meshech
- Tiras
We are told the sons of Gomer -
- Ashkenaz
- Riphath
- Togarmah
And Javan -
That's seven altogether
- Elishah
- Tarshish
- Kittim
- Dodanim
So this can be interpreted two ways:
From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.
1. It was from all of Japath's sons
OR
2. It was from the sons of Gomer and Javan only. Which I tend to lean towards as it seems to be speaking of the people who live on the edges of the earth. I also tend to lean towards there being one land mass before the flood and soon thereafter it broke up, possibly by all the waters beneath breaking forth and causing the gaps to form. But let's not get off on that trail for now.
The family tree from NOah is repeated in 1 Chron and is the same so I won't post it here to save space.
The other place Magog is mentioned is in Ezekiel
1 And the word of the L-RD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord G-D; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
Meshech and Tubal were brothers of Magog, it seems by this (1) verse they lived under Magog?
Persia is present day Iran (a Persian Synagogue in California was recently vandalized) and the place where Esther lived and saved all the Jews.
Ethiopia although named in the Bible was the land of 'Cush', the Son of Ham
Libya - Is 'Put', another son of Ham
14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord G-D; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? 15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: 16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
Chapter 39 continues with this:
6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Let's see what Josephus has to say about Magog. I'll continue in the next post.
As for the numerical gematria concerning ten horns that are gog-ma-gog.Forgive me for addressing the topographical aspect aside from the numerical composition of The Royal Torah.
After assessing for the past few yrs
It seems to me that there are principles that need to be spoken of.
For instance;
What do the Euphrates river and isles have in common.?
Answer;
a shore like border that erodes with time.
I wonder if gog magog is likened to such an erosion after their platitude has been deftly revealed.
Matthew 7:24
Josephus is a fraud just as rashi is.From another thread here it was brought up about Magog, didn't want to derail that because there's much to look into.
We first find it in Genesis in the genealogy found there after the flood.
1 Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.
2 The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
3.The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.
4. The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
5 From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.
We have Seven sons of Japheth
- Gomer
- Magog
- Madia
- Javan
- Tubal
- Meshech
- Tiras
We are told the sons of Gomer -
- Ashkenaz
- Riphath
- Togarmah
And Javan -
That's seven altogether
- Elishah
- Tarshish
- Kittim
- Dodanim
So this can be interpreted two ways:
From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.
1. It was from all of Japath's sons
OR
2. It was from the sons of Gomer and Javan only. Which I tend to lean towards as it seems to be speaking of the people who live on the edges of the earth. I also tend to lean towards there being one land mass before the flood and soon thereafter it broke up, possibly by all the waters beneath breaking forth and causing the gaps to form. But let's not get off on that trail for now.
The family tree from NOah is repeated in 1 Chron and is the same so I won't post it here to save space.
The other place Magog is mentioned is in Ezekiel
1 And the word of the L-RD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord G-D; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
Meshech and Tubal were brothers of Magog, it seems by this (1) verse they lived under Magog?
Persia is present day Iran (a Persian Synagogue in California was recently vandalized) and the place where Esther lived and saved all the Jews.
Ethiopia although named in the Bible was the land of 'Cush', the Son of Ham
Libya - Is 'Put', another son of Ham
14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord G-D; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? 15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: 16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
Chapter 39 continues with this:
6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Let's see what Josephus has to say about Magog. I'll continue in the next post.
A conversation about garments along with a warmth in spirit is beyond the spirit of understanding(honey) of those whose feet and hands have betrayed Yeshua.Shechem being Holy
The sons of Re’uven the firstborn of Isra’el — he was the firstborn, but because he defiled his father’s bed, his birthright was given to the sons of Yosef the son of Isra’el, though not in such a way as for him to be regarded in the genealogy as the firstborn. 2 For Y’hudah became greater than his brothers, inasmuch as the ruler came from him; nevertheless, the birthright went to Yosef. 3 So these are the sons of Re’uven the firstborn of Isra’el: Hanokh, Pallu, Hetzron and Karmi.
4 The descendants of Yo’el: his son Sh’ma‘yah, his son Gog, his son Shim‘i, 5 his son Mikhah, his son Re‘ayah, his son Ba‘al, 6 and his son Be’erah. Tilgat-Piln’eser king of Ashur carried him away captive; he was leader of the Re’uveni. 7 His brothers, by their clans, as listed in their genealogical records were: Ye‘i’el the leader, Z’kharyah 8 and Bela the son of ‘Azaz the son of Sh’ma the son of Yo’el. He lived in ‘Aro‘er, with territory extending to N’vo and Ba‘al-M‘on; 9 while to the east he occupied territory that extended to the beginning of the desert as one comes from the Euphrates River; because their cattle multiplied in the land of Gil‘ad
I think you'd better explain that one.Josephus is a fraud just as rashi is.
The deception formally known as rashi is a mere acronym held by those that call evil good.I think you'd better explain that one.
fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right...
You can't just post that without evidence. Please put forth something to back it up.The deception formally known as rashi is a mere acronym held by those that call evil good.
As for the Josephus fraud.
Simple:
The author miss spoke and revealed they had no knowledge of the hebrew language.
I warn you the same as I've other sisters and brothers.
Blessings Always
Forgive me for assuming what I stated as Truth would be received.You can't just post that without evidence. Please put forth something to back it up.
Regardless of the lies..You can't just post that without evidence. Please put forth something to back it up.
You can't just post that without evidence. Please put forth something to back it up.
The warning is for all to steer clear of rashi.You can't just post that without evidence. Please put forth something to back it up.
Fraudulence from the luciferians that claim to be believers is quite obvious when they promote lawlessness.I think you'd better explain that one.
fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right...
The Fraudulence from the luciferians that claim to be believers is quite obvious when they promote lawlessness.
They blaspheme all That is Holy and encourage others to do the same so that their capital reward will be paid to ensure a temporal comfort of worldly wealth.
I believe it is called fame and fortune.
Do you know of a cyruss like person that has desired such filth?
I do and hardly give a thought about such a pharaohs demise.
They made their choice and took the mark of destruction willingly.
Such coveteousness in storing grain in a pyramid is what the luciferian rhetoric reveals.
Not only are they lacking in credential lives.
They mean to kill others with lies.
Sis,
Remember this well.
No secular government serves The Lord with a majority vote from the Faithful Host that serve The Kingdom.
Another of the gog-ma-gog traits and tact can be found in Judas the betrayer and all that follow his example in violence toward the faithful.From another thread here it was brought up about Magog, didn't want to derail that because there's much to look into.
We first find it in Genesis in the genealogy found there after the flood.
1 Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.
2 The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
3.The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.
4. The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
5 From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.
We have Seven sons of Japheth
- Gomer
- Magog
- Madia
- Javan
- Tubal
- Meshech
- Tiras
We are told the sons of Gomer -
- Ashkenaz
- Riphath
- Togarmah
And Javan -
That's seven altogether
- Elishah
- Tarshish
- Kittim
- Dodanim
So this can be interpreted two ways:
From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.
1. It was from all of Japath's sons
OR
2. It was from the sons of Gomer and Javan only. Which I tend to lean towards as it seems to be speaking of the people who live on the edges of the earth. I also tend to lean towards there being one land mass before the flood and soon thereafter it broke up, possibly by all the waters beneath breaking forth and causing the gaps to form. But let's not get off on that trail for now.
The family tree from NOah is repeated in 1 Chron and is the same so I won't post it here to save space.
The other place Magog is mentioned is in Ezekiel
1 And the word of the L-RD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord G-D; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
Meshech and Tubal were brothers of Magog, it seems by this (1) verse they lived under Magog?
Persia is present day Iran (a Persian Synagogue in California was recently vandalized) and the place where Esther lived and saved all the Jews.
Ethiopia although named in the Bible was the land of 'Cush', the Son of Ham
Libya - Is 'Put', another son of Ham
14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord G-D; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? 15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: 16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
Chapter 39 continues with this:
6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Let's see what Josephus has to say about Magog. I'll continue in the next post.
I think you'd better explain that one.
fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right...
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