Madonna vs. Mel

[Ginny]

Unbiasedly (is that a word?) speaking, I wonder if as much poop hit the fan with a sober Madonna as it does with a drunken Mel?

She......... suspended herself from a giant mirrored crucifix, head adorned with a designer crown of thorns (provided by Cotter Church Supplies, LA) in an all-out attempt to get someone, anyone out there, riled. LINK

I in no way condone Mel's words, but there are so many in-your-face double standards in this world. But then again, blatantly ridiculing the Christian faith no longer raises most eyebrows.

 

[Skaloop]

They're totally different situations. One is a staged re-enactment of a historical event that does not directly ridicule or put down anyone. The other is an accidental drunken tirade directly referencing specific people as evil.

There's a big difference between an impersonation (even if it is less than friendly) and out-and-out hateful statements.

Besides, it's all moot; Madonna's thing is getting plenty of press as well. It won't get as much as Mel, but that's because his deal involves a lot more of a schadenfreude aspect, whereas Madonna is just doing what she normally does.

 

[Ginny]

No offense, but you and I "see" Jesus differently so perhaps that is why a Christian could be just as offended as what Madonna does and equally disturbed at what Mel said.

What Christ did (for the understanding individual) is blasphemed by Madonna.

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]In an e-mail to The Associated Press on Thursday, the singer's New York-based spokeswoman, Liz Rosenberg, said: "Madonna does not think Jesus would be mad at her, as his teaching of loving thy neighbor and tolerance is Madonna's message as well. The context of Madonna's performance on the crucifix is not negative nor disrespectful toward the church."

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IMO, As long as she thinks so then I guess it's okay?

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[CSmrw]

I think it may be because Mel's tirade was agonst a people, a "race", whereas Madonna's is about what a peiople think. I have no problem saying to any Jew's face I think their religion is as silly as any other, but I would never dengrate them for being of Jewish decent.

 

[Ginny]

I agree.... just as I would never put myself up on a cross...where millions of people believe a man died to save the human race.

She's something else, that's for sure.

 

[CSmrw]

I would if I felt I had something valuable to say by doing it. I don't know what that might be, but I would do it. Frankly if I thought Jews were a bad ethnic group because of genetics I wouldn't have to get drunk to say so. I don't , but if I did I would. That's the nature of free speech.

 

[NothingButTheBlood]

I am more concerned about Mel for two reasons:

He's a Christian and should have a higher standard for himself and his comments were against a whole people.

Madonna is a press hound (not the word I would like to use) and uses Christianity as a attention getter. She has no concept of respect or faith no matter what she says or she wouldn't go about offending large groups of people. I don't expect much from her.

 

[JGG]

Oh. I was hoping for a cage match. Nevermind.

 

[sparklecat]

IMO, As long as she thinks so then I guess it's okay?

I would think it was her motivation that mattered myself - if she didn't intend it to be disrespectful, then surely she could be cut some slack?

 

[Arnold_Philips]

We've come to expect this sort of outrageous one-upmanship from Madonna. For Mel, whose film and own words put him on a different playing field, the criticism is valid.

 

[Ginny]

I would think it was her motivation that mattered myself - if she didn't intend it to be disrespectful, then surely she could be cut some slack?

or flat out ignorance?