Madagascar and Australia, a question for creationists.

[Skreeper]

That's a cause scientiss is smot.

They say all the land on earth was unna wotta, but at differnt times.

So if they fine a swordfish in Nebraska, they say, "No big deal. Nebraska was unna wotta at one time."

Then, if they fine a wale in Nevada, they say, "No big deal. Nevada was unna wotta at another time."

Are you okay? This reads like you had a stroke recently.

 

[lesliedellow]

That's a cause scientiss is smot.

They say all the land on earth was unna wotta, but at differnt times

Except they don't say any such thing. Don't let that stop you though.

 

[USincognito]

Why do you think kangaroos were directly created by God?

Are you unfamiliar with a premise establishing rhetorical question?

 

[USincognito]

6,000 years is more than enough time. You are forgetting about the great flood.

1. Not according to everything we know about geology, geophysics and thermodynamics.
2. There is no evidence that the Flood ever happened.

 

[USincognito]

What convinced you that a god exists?

Off topic. Don't be like an atheist version of the apologists we get around here.

 

[USincognito]

I can attest to that as I was an atheist most my life and completely ignorant to any idea that mainstream science didn't support...

That's nice. When it comes to the Flood, no science supports it however. "Flood Geology" is pseudoscience.

 

[The Stamp]

Are you okay? This reads like you had a stroke recently.

He must think that if he puts on a funny voice then the problem will disappear, for him perhaps but not for anyone else.

 

[Gospel_van]

Welcome to the family of God, my brother!

Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Thank you! It's great to be apart of the spiritual family and grow with all my brothers and sisters!

 

[Gospel_van]

What convinced you that a god exists?

An unbiased look at the evidence and the clear lies and deception in the scientific community started it all...it was a long long process.

I don't, but YECs do.

I am a YEC and do NOT think a kangaroo was apart of God's original creation.

According to a calculation done by a creationist, the weight of the water in the flood would have been 4,525,000 tons.

However, the mass of the Earth is 5,970,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons.

So how would so relatively little water manage to rearrange something weighing about 1,000,000,000,000,000 times as much?

The flood only effected the top couple miles of sedement and maybe a few hundred feet into the basement rock...your numbers might be correct but we aren't dealing with the entire earth. Additionally, the sedimentary layers are mainly sand stone. I don't think I have to explain to you how easily sand can be moved by water. Now imagine very fast water, kolking, vortexing and working together to move tiny pieces of sand. Google "Missoula floods" to learn more about the power of water.

 

[USincognito]

The flood only effected the top couple miles of sedement and maybe a few hundred feet into the basement rock...

Basically the entire geological column then?

 

[miamited]

What great flood? are you talking about the flood for which there is no evidence?

HI stamp,

The believer is not so concerned with physical evidence. You see, for us, if all we're going to entertain as truth is only what we can find physical evidence for, then we'd never make it to Jesus. There is no physical evidence that he was the Son of God, even though God himself said that he was, according to the Scriptures. There is no physical evidence that his death really paid any suitable sacrifice to God for sin, although the Scriptures tell us that he did. There is no physical evidence that he was raised from the dead three days after his death, although again, the Scriptures tell us that he did. There is no physical evidence that he ascended to heaven as his disciples looked on, although the Scriptures tell us that he did.

So, hopefully you'll understand that the believer's faith never rests on the evidence of the natural properties of things. For many of us, and I purposefully use the word 'many' rather than 'all' because you will find those among us who are not a part of us just as the first apostles describe in their day, our faith rests on the foundation that God's word is true. He said the whole earth was flooded and describes for us some of the evidences of that, such as all the mountains were covered and that all creatures that move about the earth died.

The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits. Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.

The waters covered the mountains more than fifteen cubits. 'Every' living thing that moved on land perished and it lists birds, livestock, wild animals. 'all' creatures that swarm over the earth and mankind. 'Everything' on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrilss died. 'Every' living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out. People and animals and creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. The Scriptures seem to take an inordinate amount of effort to impress upon the reader that everything on the whole earth died.

Then we are told that the water flooded the earth for 150 days. Now, we've had a lot of pretty awesome floods recorded on the earth, but there's honestly no way that a local flood will flood the earth for 150 days. The standing water is going to be absorbed by the earth and run out where there are valleys between the mountains. When we accept all the descriptions of the flood, it's really very hard to understand that it could be a local flood.

But, I do understand that there are a lot of people, even among those who call themselves believers, who don't actually believe all that the Scriptures describe.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted

 

[Gospel_van]

Basically the entire geological column then?

The entire geological column was effected by the flood, yes. Below the basement rock little erosion has occurred making the weight given erroneous in this discussion

 

[Gospel_van]

That's nice. When it comes to the Flood, no science supports it however. "Flood Geology" is pseudoscience.

What, then, is your explanation for the stratigraphic column? Have you ever looked at a flood model? Or do you speak of ignorance?

 

[Skreeper]

HI stamp,

The believer is not so concerned with physical evidence. You see, for us, if all we're going to entertain as truth is only what we can find physical evidence for, then we'd never make it to Jesus. There is no physical evidence that he was the Son of God, even though God himself said that he was, according to the Scriptures. There is no physical evidence that his death really paid any suitable sacrifice to God for sin, although the Scriptures tell us that he did. There is no physical evidence that he was raised from the dead three days after his death, although again, the Scriptures tell us that he did. There is no physical evidence that he ascended to heaven as his disciples looked on, although the Scriptures tell us that he did.

Your standard of evidence is ridiculously low when all it takes for you to believe something is to be in an dusty old book.

The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits. Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.

I don't know why you would worship a deity that drowns the entire planet.

 

[Gospel_van]

I don't know why you would worship a deity that drowns the entire planet.

Have you read the text? Do you know why God flooded the earth?

 

[Skreeper]

Have you read the text? Do you know why God flooded the earth?

Some people did naughty things. Still doesn't excuse drowning everyone.

 

[lesliedellow]

The flood only effected the top couple miles of sedement and maybe a few hundred feet into the basement rock....

Did you find that in Genesis as well, or is it just one of those things you find it convenient to make up?

 

[Gospel_van]

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Some people did naughty things. Still doesn't excuse drowning everyone.

By naughty things you must be referring to the direct defilement of animals...the people were having sex with animals. But no, that is not why God flooded the earth; although it can definitely be an attributed reason.
God flooded the earth as to preserve the human genome from contamination.

Additionally, the wage of sin is death. All have sinned against their creator on their creators land, eating their creators plants, drinking his water. Each breathe you take is a gift from God.

Why are you here? To learn? To teach? To fight? It certainly doesn't seem like you are on this Christian forum to learn a Christian perspective, rather, to ridicule it. Is that your purpose here? To ridicule what you clearly don't understand?[/COLOR]

 

[lesliedellow]

I am a YEC and do NOT think a kangaroo was apart of God's original creation.

So they evolved - and in just 6,000 years? Or, don't tell me, they are a mutant form brought about by the Fall.

 

[Gospel_van]

Did you find that in Genesis as well, or is it just one of those things you find it convenient to make up?

Direct observation. Very little erosion has occurred beyond the basement rock, therefore, we can conclude the flood did not effect the basement rock as much as the sedimentary layers. This is an interpretation of the evidence using the bible as the authority of truth.