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Am I supposed to understand these things?
Good guess. Do you never ask questions about a subject that you have no degree or training in?
Microwave radio, digital radio, fiber optics transmission, electronic switching, unless of course, if a person is not a biology major it is not really science, which I have been told in the past.
Actually he did answer you. It appears that someone dishonestly edited his response to you. That was not proper at all. Here is his full answer to your question:Just cannot answer questions can you SW?
Who programmed them? Who is this "evolution" person that did all this programming?
So, after all that criticism of human 'design', you still believe that God thinks it was GOOD...Why are humans.... the ones who have the ability to eradicate the whole planet......the ones with the very least and an absolute pathetic amount of this "evolution programmed" behavior patterns?
You don't leave home until 18 years.
Cannot walk for a year.
Cannot clean them selves after going to the washroom or even control their bladder or colon until three years.
Pretty much need our parents continually for 10 years.
Think we know everything by 18.
Sheesh.... you would have thunk we would have at least learned to fly... who would not be in a better spot if we could fly.... but no..... we cannot evolve to fly... we had to build a machine to do it for us..
Same with swimming the ocean.. that would have been nice too..
Sorry, I'll stick with the fact that God made us. Made each creature, just as He wanted it to be.. and:
Saw that it was GOOD.
Did you have a question? I thought you were just telling falsehoods about science.Just cannot answer questions can you SW?
Why didnt you include his entire response?
tevans9129;n45092 said:There are many others that have a different answer as to "how it could have happened". I am curious as to how science knows exactly how it happened billlllions and billllions of years ago but cannot answer how it began. If someone is going to teach others how to build a house, do they start with the floor? If someone is going to teach others about evolution, should they start with the "floor" or the foundation?
Sophistry. You exaggerate the certainty with which scientific theories are presented and then fault science for it. You blame evolution for not being able to explain abiogenesis, but you have no explanation of your own. You whine about science not knowing what happened before the big bang when you don't know, either. What's your point?
Yes, as a matter of fact, but per the usual, you have no answers for my questions as they are asked.Did you have a question?
I am curious as to how science knows exactly how it happened billlllions and billllions of years ago but cannot answer how it began.
If someone is going to teach others how to build a house, do they start with the floor? If someone is going to teach others about evolution, should they start with the "floor" or the foundation?
Well, I eventually answered your question, but I notice that you did not answer mine.Yes, as a matter of fact, but per the usual, you have no answers for my questions as they are asked.
I would bet the ranch, the objection is a strong need to protect a faith belief.I'm not sure what your objection is here. The Earth appears to be over 4 billions of years old and life on Earth has appeared to have existed for almost as long (based on earliest fossil life). It's just the way things appear, what's the issue exactly?
The question as to how it began and that's what they are trying to figure out. Biology is complicated and research takes time; especially given the technological advancements that have been required to make such study possible.
Huh? Not sure what your point is here.
If you take an introduction to biology class you will certainly start with some of the basics of evolutionary biology. This should include basics of DNA, population genetics, evolutionary mechanisms, basic phylogenetics, and so on.
tevans9129;n45092 said:Microwave radio, digital radio, fiber optics transmission, electronic switching, unless of course, if a person is not a biology major it is not really science, which I have been told in the past.
No, that's all very much science. And indeed I am surprised at how deftly you seem to ignore data in other sciences.
So tell me, did you directly ever observe microwaves? Did you ever see the microwaves or did you simply see the signal the microwaves carried as shown on detectors of some sort?
You relied on evidence that convinced you microwaves were real without directly observing them, amirite?
Again, we DO SEE evidence of life forms changing over time. It's pretty much well established in the geologic record. YOU may not like that evidence but that doesn't really feel like it is based on a proper scientific critique of the evidence. It feels more like carving out a special exemption for that evidence.
When I posted the photo of the pakicetus skeleton (you can probably figure out which one it was after your request) it is part of a continuum of skeletons. The hominid skulls similarly show a continuum of development from an earlier ancestor to modern humans.)
But also there are a large number of other avenues of evidence more related to genetics and biochemistry that have been posted now several times.
So you say, can you quote my question and your answer to that question as it was asked?Well, I eventually answered your question, but I notice that you did not answer mine.
"If someone is going to teach others how to build a house, do they start with the floor? If someone is going to teach others about evolution, should they start with the "floor" or the foundation?" (post #224)So you say, can you quote my question and your answer to that question as it was asked?
If I understand what you mean by “observe”, no, I did not see them physically traveling through space but yes, I did see and measure them on a scope.
No, you are not right. They can be generated and can be seen and measured on a scope.
I will not pretend to speak for others but I have never argued that “life forms” do not change, that would be ludicrous. I simple ask for the “evidence” that shows beyond any reasonable doubt that one “kind” changes into a different “kind”. IMO, if anyone has that evidence, then does it not make sense that there would be a plethora of images that would be in stages of changing from one kind to another kind? If so, where is it? All I get is attempts at getting me to chase rabbits that has nothing to do with what I am asking.
No exemption to it, if, you challenged my belief in microwaves for transmitting data, I could hook up a scope to a MW gen and show you visually the signal and also measure its frequency and level. Can you do something comparable to that with one kind changing to another kind?
Are you suggesting that a pakicetus skeleton was not an animal that became extinct? If it was, then how could that be evidence of one kind changing into another kind? Do you have an image of the “creature” before the pakicetus skeleton and/or one that evolved from it to some other creature? Where is your evidence for that?
I have seen claims made alluding to that fact but I have not seen verifiable evidence that supports those claims. What it seems to boil down to for me is, science makes this argument and since it is science, I must accept it without question. Sorry, but science has not always been correct in its assertions. Make a believer out me, show me how anything can “evolve” from nothing, can you do that? At least without starting after some substantial developments have happened first.
BTW, what I mean by “kind” is, there is a chimp, a monkey, a gorilla and a giraffe in a picture. You show this picture to a normal six year old and ask him to pick out the one that is different from the others, which one do you suppose would be selected? One is definitely a different kind, the others are different but with many similitudes, would you agree?
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