Macroevolution

[RickG]

What I can say is that the biblical record doesn't support the psudo-science of evolutionism.

Frankly -57, I could care less whether you or anyone accepts or rejects the theory of evolution (ToE). What concerns me is that the rejection of it is based on the wrong reasons. For example, you call it pseudoscience. That tells me you know very little about the physical sciences and how it comes about its understanding and conclusions, much less ToE. Otherwise you would be able to tell me why you reject it citing "legitimate" scientific facts.

 

[-57]

What I say is that you can't make science say what you want it to say.

Nor can you make the bible say what you want it to say...but the Theo-Evo crowd sure does try.

 

[bhsmte]

Nor can you make the bible say what you want it to say...but the Theo-Evo crowd sure does try.

Seems many Christians get the bible to say what they want it to say, since there are so many denominations and different interpretations.

Your interpretation is the right one though, correct?

 

[-57]

Frankly -57, I could care less whether you or anyone accepts or rejects the theory of evolution (ToE). What concerns me is that the rejection of it is based on the wrong reasons. For example, you call it pseudoscience. That tells me you know very little about the physical sciences and how it comes about its understanding and conclusions, much less ToE. Otherwise you would be able to tell me why you reject it citing "legitimate" scientific facts.

I've already mentioned the video presented in the OP. Why did you disregard it?

 

[-57]

Seems many Christians get the bible to say what they want it to say, since there are so many denominations and different interpretations.

Your interpretation is the right one though, correct?

I'm not claiming a 100% correct interpretation.

 

[bhsmte]

I'm not claiming a 100% correct interpretation.

You agree though, that Christians interpret scripture in many different ways?

 

[lesliedellow]

You agree though, that Christians interpret scripture in many different ways?

I wonder why creationists put so much energy into trying to rubbish Evolution. It must be themselves they are trying to convince, because they are convincing nobody else.

 

[bhsmte]

I wonder why creationists put so much energy into trying to rubbish Evolution. It must be themselves they are trying to convince, because they are convincing nobody else.

It is all about protection. For those who believe in biblical creationism, it is far to painful, to acknowledge evidence that contradicts this belief, so they have no choice but to do whatever is necessary, to deny and or claim those who believe in evolution, are being led by evil.

Very robust defense mechanisms, are interesting to watch in action.

 

[Butterfly99]

As I said....My guess, atheistic evolutionist give out the nobel prize. As I said it was a guess and made tounge in cheek. I'm not going to debate percentages as this thread is not about that.

To get back on topic...Its video's such as what Grandpa posted that will cause the downfall of evolutionism. There is no way a process using chance mutations could do what the video presents.

You didn't pay much attention in your biology classes, mister.

 

[-57]

You agree though, that Christians interpret scripture in many different ways?

Many different ways? For the most part no. Especially concerning the essentials of the faith.

 

[Butterfly99]

That is not true. My own denomination has published public statement stating that it has no problem with ToE in 1969. I have seen others as well for the Methodists and Catholics. Furthermore, atheism is an individual personal preference. It has nothing to do with being against any religion or supporting science.

That's the same with us. I hadn't known that but I asked my mom & she said that we have an official statement about it. It's never been talked about at church. For the same reason we don't need to convince folks the earth isn't flat, lol.

 

[-57]

I wonder why creationists put so much energy into trying to rubbish Evolution. It must be themselves they are trying to convince, because they are convincing nobody else.

Forcing evolutionism into the bible changes the bible especially concerning the reason as to why Jesus died. Some so-called christians change it to the point that its not christianity anymore.

 

[bhsmte]

Forcing evolutionism into the bible changes the bible especially concerning the reason as to why Jesus died. Some so-called christians change it to the point that its not christianity anymore.

Is it your position, if someone agrees with evolution, they can not be a Christian?

 

[-57]

You didn't pay much attention in your biology classes, mister.

Then perhaps you paid enough attention in class you can explain how the processses presented in the video evolved.

 

[-57]

Is it your position, if someone agrees with evolution, they can not be a Christian?

For some that would be true.

 

[bhsmte]

Then perhaps you paid enough attention in class you can explain how the processses presented in the video evolved.

Do you subscribe to; if we don't know everything, we can't know anything?

 

[Butterfly99]

Then perhaps you paid enough attention in class you can explain how the processses presented in the video evolved.

Lol. Are you willing to learn anything about it anyway? I mean legit learn. I mean really if I give you a nice long detailed response are you just gonna say "nope! can't be cause this is what I think the Bible says & so you're wrong."

 

[bhsmte]

For some that would be true.

Ok.

Then that would mean, some Christians can agree with evolution and others can't?

Can you explain who can agree with evolution and who can't?

 

[Butterfly99]

Forcing evolutionism into the bible changes the bible especially concerning the reason as to why Jesus died. Some so-called christians change it to the point that its not christianity anymore.

That just a bunch of baloney, mister. If you're pinning your Christianity on that then you've totally missed the whole entire point of Jesus.

 

[-57]

Ok.

Then that would mean, some Christians can agree with evolution and others can't?

Can you explain who can agree with evolution and who can't?

For many christians it's what they have been taught and have believed the lie.
For others they deny the biblical truth that sin and death spread via one man because of disobedience as opposed to the evolution of a sin nature via a so-called natural process.