Mac and PC - let's have a good dialogue!

[pgp_protector]

I am a graphic designer, with a preferance towards PCs.

took me a long time to figure out what biased me against Macs...and it finally hit me about a week ago.

It's not macs I have a problem with, it's the people that use them...the whole "Holier than thou", "Macs rock, you are an idiot if you think anything else. No you are Not entitled to your own opinion" people that seem to be the majority of Mac users...they are the reason why I will never own a mac in my life.

I think it's more like there the Vocal minority of Mac users

 

[WalksWithChrist]

I am a graphic designer, with a preferance towards PCs.

took me a long time to figure out what biased me against Macs...and it finally hit me about a week ago.

It's not macs I have a problem with, it's the people that use them...the whole "Holier than thou", "Macs rock, you are an idiot if you think anything else. No you are Not entitled to your own opinion" people that seem to be the majority of Mac users...they are the reason why I will never own a mac in my life.

I truly know what you're saying. I used to work in close proximity with a room full of designers who were hardcore Mac people.

But that's no reason to down Macs. I can sit here for literally hours telling you stories about pompous PC users I've encountered in my travels as a PC repair/support guy.

Just go with what works for you. Check out the pros and cons and go for it! What people say doesn't matter.

 

[WalksWithChrist]

I think it's more like there the Vocal minority of Mac users

I use a Mac at home and I barely mention it to my coworkers in my IT support department. I know they're Mac "dummies" and I don't rub their faces in it.

 

[ArcticFox]

I am a graphic designer, with a preferance towards PCs.

took me a long time to figure out what biased me against Macs...and it finally hit me about a week ago.

It's not macs I have a problem with, it's the people that use them...the whole "Holier than thou", "Macs rock, you are an idiot if you think anything else. No you are Not entitled to your own opinion" people that seem to be the majority of Mac users...they are the reason why I will never own a mac in my life.

Now, that's no reason to dislike a Mac. After all, I'm sure you'll find at least a dozen times as many arrogant and haughty people running Windows than you will Macs (solely because the vast majority of computer owners run Windows).

Although you may encounter some with a prideful, boasting attitude, I find that the majority of the time the Mac users are trying to encourage others to enjoy what they are enjoying, and that's a GOOD thing. When people have computer problems, I try to help them out as best I can, doing everything to get their poor Windows machine up and running. At some point, however, I will generally mention to them that a lot of headache and frustration can be eliminated with a switch to Mac, if they so desire. By simply presenting my experiences, I'm doing what most anyone would do.

Of course, I also mention the drawbacks of the machine. I mention the occasional need some have to use Windows programs, especially for Work or schools that use a specific program for something in particular. I also mention the slightly higher price, and the need to relearn some of what they know about computers and how the OS works (differences from Windows). In the end, however, if someone doesn't need a Mac I don't feel any need to pressure them to think about it.

After all, if you found a mouse that never hurt your wrist, or a software program that made your life much easier, would you not share it with those whom you think might benefit from it?

 

[ArcticFox]

I was a real big fan of Mac in the days before OsX. Now I just feel cheated as if mac is nothing but an intel PC with Linux.....

I'm surprised to hear you say that! I understand the resistance to change, really I do.

Although I didn't use OS 9 or prior, I can see some of the drawbacks. The dock can be quite annoying at times, taking up a good amount of space and preventing you from using all of your screen realestate (thought you can hide it easily). The biggest drawback of the dock is that it doesn't let you take advantage of embedded folders. For example, if I put a folder there, it'd be nice to click the folder and see a list of the programs/documents in that folder. The dock also shifts in length to meet the amount of icons present, making all of the icons you are trying to get to shift with it. It's easy to 'miss' the trash can or accidentally click the wrong icon. Although there are commercial solutions for a better launcher, I don't feel like any OS should require you to find a commercial solution for such a simple issue (launching programs/opening documents).

My next qualm is the Finder. It's not as fully functional as it should be, especially taking into account OS X's Unix base. Where is all of the functionaly to easily see and edit permissions? Why is it sometimes so hard to tell where exactly a the Folder is that you have open? Why does each Finder window easily take up 1/4 to 1/2 of your screen space? Why does it not show the size of the contents of a folder with embedded folders? Instead it just has '--' in its place. It'd be nice to easily see all of this information in the Finder window, with a smaller and more compact design.

There's more, but I'll stop !

 

[raphink]

I too have been using MacOS since version 6, and feel MacOSX has not only been something positive. I actually have a Powerbook but never boot on MacOSX on it.

As of saying that MacOSX is just an Intel PC with Linux on it... well... I'm sorry but I prefer Linux Window Managers in terms of power. MacOSX looks & feel very nice, but I don't find it useful.

Part of the problem is the Finder. Many functionalities were lost between Classic and X. I've been talking about that with a colleague of mine who is a big fan of MacOS Classic and regrets then time when windows opened one on top of the other and you could easily navigate using shortcuts. MacOSX has surely enhanced OpenStep though, and has allowed the GNUStep project to go on.

My desktop of choice remains KDE, as I have found no other desktop that allows me to do so many things easily.

 

[TheReasoner]

I too have been using MacOS since version 6, and feel MacOSX has not only been something positive. I actually have a Powerbook but never boot on MacOSX on it.

As of saying that MacOSX is just an Intel PC with Linux on it... well... I'm sorry but I prefer Linux Window Managers in terms of power. MacOSX looks & feel very nice, but I don't find it useful.

Part of the problem is the Finder. Many functionalities were lost between Classic and X. I've been talking about that with a colleague of mine who is a big fan of MacOS Classic and regrets then time when windows opened one on top of the other and you could easily navigate using shortcuts. MacOSX has surely enhanced OpenStep though, and has allowed the GNUStep project to go on.

My desktop of choice remains KDE, as I have found no other desktop that allows me to do so many things easily.

I have also been around Mac OS since 6, and I must confess I wonder what functionality you miss?

 

[WalksWithChrist]

I agree that the basic interface of OS X could be a bit more powerful.Mostly for little things like being able to manage files a mite more smoothly.