Lying

[Gerry]

Well I do not see that your post was addressed to anyone in particular, so I thought I would jump in and ask a question.

You say, ethics is a VERY VERY tricky topic. Perhaps so. But in what way do you mean? And may I ask what is your answer to the questions you have posed, both from what you have learned in this ethics class and what you think personally. Do you agree or disagree with what you are being taught?

 

[panterapat]

Gerry-

Absolutely no offense taken. I was stunned because others consider me to be a purist as for as the literal commands of God. I have to evaluate the possibility that I have been duped in a sutble way.

Daughter of the King-

I would say that lying to save a life is lying but the person who lied would not be guilty of sin due to the higher truth of the sanctity of life.

(Does that sit well with you Gerry? I honestly want to know, with no mental reservations please.)

Blessings always- Patrick

 

[daughter of the king]

patrick your theory is called graded absolutism and it is one of the theorys we have been studying. gerry we haven't been taught really which is the right we have been studying the theorys and talking about ethical stuff like war abortion, poverty, aids, marriage and divorce i would lie to save a life but i am don't sure if that is right but i would do it.

 

[Gerry]

Well, I would first say top you both to please understand, That I am making no claim to purism or perfection. I am not setting myself up as a judge or telling you I have never lied or committed sin. I make no brag that I am a sinner and I am certainly not proud of it.

Having said all that, I can tell you, that I UNDERSTAND lying to save a life.
Nevertheless God simply makes no allowance for the circumstance, because God is bigger than the circumstance.

You see if those lives were meant by God, in His Divine plan, to be saved, He would save them in a way easily available to Him. God is a God of absolutes. He will never tell you: Thou shalt not lie, and then turn around and whisper in your ear, "well OK, go ahead, this is different." No Jesus taught us that satan is the Father of Lies, and we are taught that no good thing can proceed from him. satan is the essence and the epitome of evil.
So I know I sound hard and unyielding, but there is no room in God's written Word for compromise.

It is where we as Christians get into trouble. We are forever "interpreting God's Word to make it fit our lifestyle and the circumstances we find ourselves in. But His Word has already been interpreted, and it the interpretation was for another people of another time, but the application is for us, in this time, and there has been no change in the interpretation.

Murder is murder, both then and now:adultry is adultry, both then and now: Lying is saying what is not true then and always, and none of it is situational, circumstantial, or graded in any way.

I believe God is Holy, fair, and just, and as He says He is no respector of persons. If there were a loophole, He would have told us all, and not left it for the educated deep thinkers to to glean for themselves alone.

 

[livingforJesus-Shaun]

help

 

[Gerry]

Originally posted by livingforJesus-Shaun
help

I know THAT feeling!

 

[panterapat]

Gerry- Thanks for your STRAIGHT talk. You sure layed it on the line. I respect that. May God bless you and guide your every decission.

In Christ (with absolutely NO mental reservation)
Patrick

 

[Gerry]

Originally posted by panterapat
Gerry- Thanks for your STRAIGHT talk. You sure layed it on the line. I respect that. May God bless you and guide your every decission.

In Christ (with absolutely NO mental reservation)
Patrick

What a thrill and blessing to interact in fellowship with some one like you. Thanks fo your kind words. You have no idea how much they mean to me.