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My question should be more direct. Since physical systems are able to evolve without intervention, and since there’s growing evidence for abiogenesis, is there any chance there is no God? Why or why not?

There's an implicit assumption (some might say error) in your statement. I'll just ask a question: How do you know systems evolve without intervention? Then I'll suggest the following: Is it that they evolve without intervention, or is it that they evolve consistently from a given starting point? Might some be conflating a consistent evolution of systems that don't require human intervention with no intervention at all?
 
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There's an implicit assumption (some might say error) in your statement. I'll just ask a question: How do you know systems evolve without intervention? Then I'll suggest the following: Is it that they evolve without intervention, or is it that they evolve consistently from a given starting point? Might some be conflating a consistent evolution of systems that don't require human intervention with no intervention at all?
 
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There's an implicit assumption (some might say error) in your statement. I'll just ask a question: How do you know systems evolve without intervention? Then I'll suggest the following: Is it that they evolve without intervention, or is it that they evolve consistently from a given starting point? Might some be conflating a consistent evolution of systems that don't require human intervention with no intervention at all?
I thought that bc it was in the question I posted. I posted a question I read elsewhere.
 
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My question should be more direct. Since physical systems are able to evolve without intervention, and since there’s growing evidence for abiogenesis, is there any chance there is no God? Why or why not?
Why not?
  • God says "The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” Psalm 14:1
  • Jesus said concerning Scripture, "your word is truth"
 
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