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Verse 26 seems to contradict the main teaching of the Bible as we should love our neighbor as ourselves. yet he is telling us if we don't hate are mother and father we can not be his disciple. I think maybe the true meaning was lost in the translation perhaps, would love to hear other comments

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The Cost of Discipleship
(Matthew 8:18–22; Luke 9:57–62; John 6:59–66)

25 Large crowds were now traveling with Jesus, and He turned and said to them,
26 If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be My disciple.
27 And whoever does not carry his cross and follow Me cannot be My disciple.

28 Which of you, wishing to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost to see if he has the resources to complete it?
29 Otherwise, if he lays the foundation and is unable to finish the work, everyone who sees it will ridicule him,
30 saying, ‘This man could not finish what he started to build.’

31 Or what king on his way to war with another king will not first sit down and consider whether he can engage with ten thousand men the one coming against him with twenty thousand?
32. And if he is unable, he will send a delegation while the other king is still far off, to ask for terms of peace.

33 In the same way, any one of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be My disciple.
 

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Verse 26 seems to contradict the main teaching of the Bible as we should love our neighbor as ourselves. yet he is telling us if we don't hate are mother and father we can not be his disciple. I think maybe the true meaning was lost in the translation perhaps, would love to hear other comments

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The Cost of Discipleship
(Matthew 8:18–22; Luke 9:57–62; John 6:59–66)

25 Large crowds were now traveling with Jesus, and He turned and said to them,
26 If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be My disciple.
27 And whoever does not carry his cross and follow Me cannot be My disciple.

28 Which of you, wishing to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost to see if he has the resources to complete it?
29 Otherwise, if he lays the foundation and is unable to finish the work, everyone who sees it will ridicule him,
30 saying, ‘This man could not finish what he started to build.’

31 Or what king on his way to war with another king will not first sit down and consider whether he can engage with ten thousand men the one coming against him with twenty thousand?
32. And if he is unable, he will send a delegation while the other king is still far off, to ask for terms of peace.

33 In the same way, any one of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be My disciple.
Jesus Christ of Nazareth is speaking hyperbolically. We must love Him more and above anyone or anything in order to be in His Kingdom. Blessings
 
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Verse 26 seems to contradict the main teaching of the Bible as we should love our neighbor as ourselves. yet he is telling us if we don't hate are mother and father we can not be his disciple. I think maybe the true meaning was lost in the translation perhaps, would love to hear other comments
Yes, as we learn from the Father by His Doing what His Purpose and Desire and Meaning is , in His Time,
we likewise realize , with perhaps varying degrees of upsettedness and/or dispay and /or
great relief (at the Revelation of Truth and the Freedom in Truth),
that
a lot is "lost" (on purpose or not) in various translations and customs and doctrines and dogmas and meanings (of man),
that is likewise "found" when God Purposes it to be "found"/ understood.
Note that often it is very severe , like 'vilence' within ourselves - ripping our often long-held ideas apart, even cherished ones we were once sure of -
yet the purpose of God is cleansing and renewing us properly , in His Care, to think as He thinks, and not as we once thought , like written in Hebrews I think - to wean us away from thinking the way we think as humans, to thinking His Way as He Desires and Plans all of our lives.... Gloriously! Extravagantly Graciously Generously !
 
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