Luke 10:21-22

[jollyjosh]

21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

Verse 21: Does this mean Jesus is glad that God did not reveal himself to clever people?
Verse 22: Everyone knows who God is surely?

Any explanations?

 

[KEPLER]

21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

Verse 21: Does this mean Jesus is glad that God did not reveal himself to clever people?
Verse 22: Everyone knows who God is surely?

Any explanations?

1) Don't look too narrowly (i.e., read vss 1-24 as a whole, don't break them apart)...the "wise and learned" is generally thought to be referring to the "prophets and kings" mentioned in vs 24.

2) No, everyone does not know who God is. Many people believe in a "god"...but the God of heaven, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is revealed in Jesus Christ. Only those who know Jesus truly know God.

Cheers,

Kepler

 

[jollyjosh]

Aah thank you on the first point, I didn't understand it, I thought it meant "thank you that clever people don't know it"

And I realize that some people don't know God, but I know that Jesus is the Son of God, and I have a relationship with Him, so surely I know who the Son is?

 

[BalaamsAss51]

Hello jollyjosh.

re: "Verse 21: Does this mean Jesus is glad that God did not reveal himself to clever people?"

What the Father has hidden from the "wise and prudent" or "wise and understanding" is that Jesus is his Son. In Jesus's ministry (and now in the ministry of the Twelve and the seventy) it is revealed that he is the Son. His disciples are "babies" or "infants". Humans would not expect such as these to have understanding and knowledge of what has been given to them. But these "hidden things" which have not been revealed to the wise are revealed to these infants. Just as Jesus hides his teachings in parables so the kingdom of God is hidden in Jesus. Apart from receiving him as God's Son, no one - not the wise and understanding of this world (such as the religious elite of Israel) will understand. So it's not a question of "smarts". It's not that the stupid will know Jesus rather than the intelligensia. It's that Jesus is glad that God has chosen to reveal (because men could never figure it out) that Jesus is Lord.

re: "Verse 22: Everyone knows who God is surely?"

Ah, but do they know the true God? People know that there is a "god". But what god? The ones on Mount Olympus? The god of Mohammed? What is your idol? Do you self-worship? In this passage Jesus exults that His Father in Heaven has now revealed His gracious plan of salvation through His Son to men. Now the true God is revealed.

Pax

 

[artjack]

21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

Verse 21: Does this mean Jesus is glad that God did not reveal himself to clever people?
Verse 22: Everyone knows who God is surely?

Any explanations?

Sinners dont know who god is, thats all of us & untill we become born again & fear him & his power

 

[jollyjosh]

So the "no man knoweth the Son" only applies to people who aren't Christian? And the "he to whom the Son will reveal him" applies for the "no man knoweth the Son" as well?
I hope that makes sense!
Thanks for helping my understanding.

 

[TrevorL]

Howdy jollyjosh,

Greetings. Luke 10:1-20 indicates that the seventy were the babes and sucklings who had become involved in listening to Christ’s words, and now were helping to spread that word through the cities of Judea and Galilee. The record in Matthew is parallel with Luke 10:21-22 and gives a clearer explanation of who the wise and prudent were.
Matthew 11:20-21 (KJV): "20 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not: 21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes."

Matthew 11:25-30 (KJV): "25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. 26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. 27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. 28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."

The invitation is open to all to come to Jesus, and if we are "babes and sucklings" rather "wise and prudent" we are more likely to see our need, recognising that we are burdened and need the rest offered. The expression "wise and prudent" does not mean that they are actually wise and prudent, but they were such in their own estimation. The disciples because they were teachable became the truly wise and prudent.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[artjack]

So the "no man knoweth the Son" only applies to people who aren't Christian? And the "he to whom the Son will reveal him" applies for the "no man knoweth the Son" as well?
I hope that makes sense!
Thanks for helping my understanding.

ok, but you can be christian without being born again in the spirit,jesus said we must become born again, that does not mean like born again christians with out offending them hopefully. I mean being born again in the Holy spirit! I think it happens with wisdom, he who listens to the word gets wisdom.