Luke 1:6

[ywl]

The passage said Zechariah and his wife followed God's law perfectly. Why we normally say no one fully satisfy the law and everyone falls short. That's why we need Jesus.

 

[motherprayer]

Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

Remember, before Christ was the law of sacrifice, which meant that sin was atoned for by sacrifical offerings. Blameless did not mean they had not sinned, but that when they DID sin, they performed the proper penance. Does that make sense?

 

[asiyreh]

And now you will be silent and not able to speak until the day this happens, because you did not believe my words, which will come true at their proper time. Luke 1-20

Here's Zechariah being a naughty boy a little later in the verse and being chastised for it.

Ok now have a look at Galatians, here Paul is having a pop at the Church for attempting to recieve "justification by works." During the address he says:-

Consider Abraham: “He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Galatians 3:6

Have a think about that and I'll write some more tomorrow. I've a few verses in mind but v tired.

Night night my brothers and sisters. Love you all.

 

[tbogunro]

The passage said Zechariah and his wife followed God's law perfectly. Why we normally say no one fully satisfy the law and everyone falls short. That's why we need Jesus.

God's law is a simple obedience and to be righteousnes is to believe God. The commandments being talked about isn't the law giving to Moses! That is the law we always fail but Jesus performed perfectly. Any time God says something it's a command because his words are truth, perfect, and never come back void. So Zechariah and his wife where blameless because they simply obeyed and believed.

 

[ywl]

Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

Remember, before Christ was the law of sacrifice, which meant that sin was atoned for by sacrifical offerings. Blameless did not mean they had not sinned, but that when they DID sin, they performed the proper penance. Does that make sense?

Does this mean that by perform proper penance everyone can be righteous and 'justified' before God?

Or even if one is 'righteous before God' One still need something else to be 'justified' and have 'eternal life'

 

[ywl]

And now you will be silent and not able to speak until the day this happens, because you did not believe my words, which will come true at their proper time. Luke 1-20

Here's Zechariah being a naughty boy a little later in the verse and being chastised for it.

Ok now have a look at Galatians, here Paul is having a pop at the Church for attempting to recieve "justification by works." During the address he says:-

Consider Abraham: “He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Galatians 3:6

Have a think about that and I'll write some more tomorrow. I've a few verses in mind but v tired.

Night night my brothers and sisters. Love you all.

So they are only 'righteous' at that point. Later, he became 'unrighteous'. So 'righteous' has two kinds. One is permanent(Abraham) and one is temporary(Zechariah)?

 

[parsley]

Remember, before Christ was the law of sacrifice, which meant that sin was atoned for by sacrifical offerings. Blameless did not mean they had not sinned, but that when they DID sin, they performed the proper penance. Does that make sense?

Does this mean that by perform proper penance everyone can be righteous and 'justified' before God?

Think of this from the standpoint of one of Jesus' disciples writing the account of His life and ministry. They probably thought fondly of Jesus' aunt, uncle, and cousin, and wanted to honor their faith and devotion.

 

[motherprayer]

Does this mean that by perform proper penance everyone can be righteous and 'justified' before God?

Or even if one is 'righteous before God' One still need something else to be 'justified' and have 'eternal life'

No no, remember, this was BEFORE Christ died on the cross for our sins. Before He paid the sacrifice, there was penance. Does that make sense?

 

[motherprayer]

Remember, before Christ was the law of sacrifice, which meant that sin was atoned for by sacrifical offerings. Blameless did not mean they had not sinned, but that when they DID sin, they performed the proper penance. Does that make sense?
Think of this from the standpoint of one of Jesus' disciples writing the account of His life and ministry. They probably thought fondly of Jesus' aunt, uncle, and cousin, and wanted to honor their faith and devotion.

Haha totally didn't see this post when I wrote my last. Bless you!

 

[parsley]

Christ died once, for all. That can mean believers prior to His earthly ministry, death, and resurrection. Abraham was justified by faith.

Hebrews 11
James 2

Jewish believers came out of the graves in Jerusalem after Jesus' death. Jesus speaks of Lazarus in the grave, with a division between the righteous and those who committed serious offenses against others.

Jesus offered eternal life with God in heaven. The concept of people going to heaven was a newer teaching, as it was always God who was in heaven, and the people were on the earth. There was apparently discussion of people going to Heaven before that time, but it was not a clear teaching or part of the Torah.

"The development of the concept of life after death is related to the development of eschatology (speculation about the "end of days") in Judaism. Beginning in the period following the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem (586 BCE), several of the classical Israelite prophets (Amos, Hosea, and Isaiah) began forecasting a better future for their people."

Heaven and Hell in Jewish Tradition - My Jewish Learning


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