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Love is both in my opinion. Either way, emotions are a part of having a relationship with the Lord. The Holy Spirit comforts us. The bible says that the apostles were sorrowful yet always rejoicing. Why would the bible say that?Exactly, as I said before. Love is action, not emotion. And emotions have no place in Christianity.
Love is an action too. God teaches us many actions that we would take in order to properly love others. His whole doctrine is based on love and it has many actions. Love lays down its life for others, its patient, kind, ect.Love is a feeling, it isn't an action. I find the assertion quite bizarre. You can't feel without emotion. I can program a robot to give me kisses and affection, but it will never love me, because it is incapable of emotion. Similarly I could pay a woman to live with me, kiss me, marry me. Does she love me by simply carrying out the actions of a loving wife. Of course not.
.... Which brings me back to my main point. True love is a lie. It's the stuff of feel-good fairytales. It's the reason a lot of marriages have fallen apart...
ep, you read right. Love, as we know it, is a big fat lie.
The fact is, emotions in general are unreliable, dangerous, and bad.
And God is only my Lord and Savior, not my friend.
Long article, but worth reading.
https://www.skipmoen.com/2008/03/the-grammar-of-love/
Yep, you read right. Love, as we know it, is a big fat lie.
The fact is, emotions in general are unreliable, dangerous, and bad. Every great society has fallen because they chose what they felt over doing what was right. It's one reason, if not the reason, why our country is in such a mess. In time, every society that goes this way will fall, destined to collapse under its own weight.
I know. "It's about relationship, not rules!" Rules are the foundation of a healthy society. Try going against the rules of your body by not breathing. You'll eventually die.
I know, people are gonna say, "Well, Jesus cried." Jesus was perfect, we are not. He had complete control of himself, we do not. The world pursues emotion, so it's best for us to go the opposite way. Emotion is the reason behind every single sin. Duty and obligation don't care about whether or not you feel like doing it. And sacrifice is always painful. If letting go of something gives you joy, it's not a sacrifice.
Happiness is frivolous and unstable (A Chinese proverb says, "Happiness begets tragedy."), anger is destructive, sadness and fear both paralyze you. Godly love is unemotional. It's meant to produce misery to keep you away from the destructive nature of happiness and sin. If you want happiness, don't become a Christian. Become a Christian only because you love people and want to help them. It leaves no room for love for self. Quite the opposite, it says deny yourself. And like sacrifice, self-denial will always involve pain.
And God is only my Lord and Savior, not my friend.
This is why I appreciate characters like Sherlock Holmes and James Bond. Both know emotion just gets in the way and even gets you killed, one way or another.
The original James Bond is a lot different from how he's popularly viewed. He's a cold assassin who will take you out, even if you're a family man. If that's his job, he's gonna get the job done. He's a man of few words. He's not gonna let some frivolous emotion get in the way of his job. And when he fell in love for the first time, she ended up betraying him. So much for "true love."
Which brings me back to my main point. True love is a lie. It's the stuff of feel-good fairytales. It's the reason a lot of marriages have fallen apart. The reason arranged marriages thrive is because there's no emotion, no love, involved. It's done primarily for the good of the community.
Love in Christianity is always an action, never emotion. Emotions have no place in Christianity, they'll only lead you to sin.
Yep, you read right. Love, as we know it, is a big fat lie.
The fact is, emotions in general are unreliable, dangerous, and bad. Every great society has fallen because they chose what they felt over doing what was right. It's one reason, if not the reason, why our country is in such a mess. In time, every society that goes this way will fall, destined to collapse under its own weight.
I know, people are gonna say, "Well, Jesus cried." Jesus was perfect, we are not. He had complete control of himself, we do not. The world pursues emotion, so it's best for us to go the opposite way. Emotion is the reason behind every single sin. Duty and obligation don't care about whether or not you feel like doing it. And sacrifice is always painful. If letting go of something gives you joy, it's not a sacrifice.
And God is only my Lord and Savior, not my friend.
Love in Christianity is always an action, never emotion. Emotions have no place in Christianity, they'll only lead you to sin.
You're right! It is a long article! I've book marked it, so I'll probably wade through it at length later, sometime....
However it's a word study at it's core, as is clearly shown at the top of the page. The problem with that is like trying to delineate the actual meaning, origin and synonyms of the word "catastrophe" for example, and then trying to make that relevant to someone who has just lost their home and family in a mud-slide.
Or to use another example, when the Black Death visited a village in Christian Europe in the medieval era, and killed a third to a half of the inhabitants, it wouldn't be much good trying to tell them Paul used the term "agape" to describe God's love. "Really?" they'd say. "All right then, now you show us His agape in this situation!!"
Academia doesn't cut it when the rubber hits the road.
Your right the ego puts conditions on love .Unconditional love is divine love that we can only be experienced through the heart not the mind.Yes emotions energy in motion.Action relies on emotion, we act because we feel. If we did not feel we would not act. So there can´t be action without emotion. Just because some people make bad decisions in love does not mean that true love is a lie, it only means that we do not know how to turn away from our ego. If we did we would be masters of true love. That has nothing to do with love but everything to do with us, you can blame us, but not love. After all, love is what we believe in, it´s the core.
Since we are told God is love (1 Jn 4.8) then you are saying God is a lie.Yep, you read right. Love, as we know it, is a big fat lie.
Actually, there are several words for "love" in the bible. In The Hebrew OT you have ahavah, dod and racham. In Greek NT you have phileo, storge, eros and agape. They each have different meanings and applications and most of them are emotional.Yet like I've said twice before, love is an action in the bible, not an emotion.
Emotions are unreliable in the extreme. But a sense of duty is hollow. That which is hollow will fall over and turn to dust without warning.
Love-as-duty leads to legalism, and legalism leads to dead faith. You can't will yourself to be loving toward anyone. What you need is a reason to love that is some attribute of the would-be object of love.
It also helps to be realistic. A lot of teaching oversells love as the silver bullet for all evil. The extreme of this position is universal salvation. If you try to imagine Hitler in heaven then you can start to sense the problem with this.
Worse even than love-as-duty and love-as-sentiment is love-as-word. When someone says "I love you" simply because one is expected to say that, meaning nothing by that at all. It doesn't even rise to the level of a proper lie.
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