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Struggles by Non-Christians
Losing my religion, where is the evidence for God
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<blockquote data-quote="Ross Woodward" data-source="post: 73378583" data-attributes="member: 414624"><p>This another of my problems, so often the case for CHristianity comes down to misrepresenting the Alternative positions. Science does not claim to know how life started. It does not claim to know what happened at the Big Bang. All it offers is the best possible theories from looking at the observable universe. Evolution does not claim to explain to know how the first living organism occurred. It does look at the fossil record and DNA and observe that there appears to be trends leading to where we are now. When new evidence is found and it keeps fitting then this seems to confirm the theory. So it observes that the universe is expanding and predicts other things that would be found if this is a long term trend. Then it tests to see if those things are supported by further evidence. Where they are then a hypothesis becomes a theory. </p><p></p><p>That’s a sensible approach. We take what we know to be observed and then accept that we may not yet have all of the evidence but from what we do have this appears to be the most likely turn of events.</p><p></p><p>Science is not silent on the literal truth of Genesis, and neither should it be. But I can accept Genesis as allegory and still see that the general message of christianity is good. I believe that is probably the route most non fundamentalist Christians take.</p><p></p><p>However on the existence of God science is silent, because there is no evidence. You cannot evidence what occurs outside of the observable universe. People come up with nothing comes from nothing all of the time. Firstly it ignores that as Christians you claim God did precisely that and secondly it is currently impossible for you to know what laws apply outside of what we can observe. If you do not have any evidence of what lies out with this universe then literally anything is possible. This makes any solution to how the universe and human life came into existence possible and as a result any claimed vision of how it happened infinitesimally probable. With this being the case I cannot see how I could continue to base my life on something that it is almost impossible is true.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ross Woodward, post: 73378583, member: 414624"] This another of my problems, so often the case for CHristianity comes down to misrepresenting the Alternative positions. Science does not claim to know how life started. It does not claim to know what happened at the Big Bang. All it offers is the best possible theories from looking at the observable universe. Evolution does not claim to explain to know how the first living organism occurred. It does look at the fossil record and DNA and observe that there appears to be trends leading to where we are now. When new evidence is found and it keeps fitting then this seems to confirm the theory. So it observes that the universe is expanding and predicts other things that would be found if this is a long term trend. Then it tests to see if those things are supported by further evidence. Where they are then a hypothesis becomes a theory. That’s a sensible approach. We take what we know to be observed and then accept that we may not yet have all of the evidence but from what we do have this appears to be the most likely turn of events. Science is not silent on the literal truth of Genesis, and neither should it be. But I can accept Genesis as allegory and still see that the general message of christianity is good. I believe that is probably the route most non fundamentalist Christians take. However on the existence of God science is silent, because there is no evidence. You cannot evidence what occurs outside of the observable universe. People come up with nothing comes from nothing all of the time. Firstly it ignores that as Christians you claim God did precisely that and secondly it is currently impossible for you to know what laws apply outside of what we can observe. If you do not have any evidence of what lies out with this universe then literally anything is possible. This makes any solution to how the universe and human life came into existence possible and as a result any claimed vision of how it happened infinitesimally probable. With this being the case I cannot see how I could continue to base my life on something that it is almost impossible is true. [/QUOTE]
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