I'm looking for an old computer that I could put Red Hat 9.0 on so I could learn it to teach someone else about it. If someone could tell me about one for sale or if someone would want to donate one.
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looking for an old cheap computer...
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Im always on the lookout for parts. Often I go to the local computer store and scavenge through their racks of used parts. Ive also traded parts with people at work and some people have even given me parts and full computer systems for working on one of their computers. You can also find cheep and free parts in local papers like the Recycler (recycler.com). Onetime I found a huge pile of perfectly fine terminals spilling over the edge of a dumpster. Ive given full running systems away too but sorry I dont have any extra systems at the moment.
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www.ebay.com. If you don't want to ship the computer, do an advanced search for computers in your area.
www.craigslist.org Pick the city nearest you and look at the computers for sale.
Otherwise keep your eyes open. I have pulled out of the trash:
5 15'' monitors, 2 17'' monitors, 1 19'' monitor, 3 pentium IIs, lots of terminals, 10+ HP printers, solaris workstations, etc, etc, etc, etc...
This stuff was just sitting at the curb or at the recycling dumpster at my university.
Look in the local paper...
Remember, lots of people are completely deluded about how much their computer is worth. Don't be afraid to offer $100-$200 less than they are asking. Or more! People wrongly believe that the original price is relevant at all.
www.craigslist.org Pick the city nearest you and look at the computers for sale.
Otherwise keep your eyes open. I have pulled out of the trash:
5 15'' monitors, 2 17'' monitors, 1 19'' monitor, 3 pentium IIs, lots of terminals, 10+ HP printers, solaris workstations, etc, etc, etc, etc...
This stuff was just sitting at the curb or at the recycling dumpster at my university.
Look in the local paper...
Remember, lots of people are completely deluded about how much their computer is worth. Don't be afraid to offer $100-$200 less than they are asking. Or more! People wrongly believe that the original price is relevant at all.
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either that or offer them way less and say that its a good deal, but that only works if the owners are computer dumbies. And i have seen our park elementary school throw out old macs when they switched to PCs so i grabbed some items out of there. And the problem with me wanting a cheap computer is that our family is really in debt at the moment so im just looking for some donations maybe.
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Yeah, eBay is great for that.
If you're around the Seattle area, you can also check out Boeing Surplus. They've got some nice 550mhz PCs for $150 right now.
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If you're around the Seattle area, you can also check out Boeing Surplus. They've got some nice 550mhz PCs for $150 right now.
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Yep, first thing I'd do is walk into a few local computer shops and flash $30-$40 around and say I'm looking for a basic used "working" system to run Redhat 9 for educational reasons. I've seen Pent class used computers go for that and maybe a little less even. If they don't set you up then and there they may keep an eye out for the computer for you.
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Your best bet is to look onEbay.com for an older computer, preferably something around 500 hz or so which would be reasonable and fast enough to run Linux. OR you can buy the parts separately and build your own if you know how.
NOTE: Now if you run a 56k modem, do not get a computer which has a winmodem in it
Your best bet is to look onEbay.com for an older computer, preferably something around 500 hz or so which would be reasonable and fast enough to run Linux. OR you can buy the parts separately and build your own if you know how.
NOTE: Now if you run a 56k modem, do not get a computer which has a winmodem in it
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I looked ebay nothing i looked that other site nothing but i found an old packard bell for $30/BO. in the paper and i might buy that or just get my friend to help me build one from scratch.
go to http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=KG-200 and you will find out what i will do and how much it might cost
go to http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=KG-200 and you will find out what i will do and how much it might cost
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oh and i need some help with some parts if im going to build it from scratch.
can i do with a seagate 6.4 gig HD for red hat 6.0? Can i do with a NEC 8x CD-Rom drive? can i do with a P2 233MHz processor? do i need any RAM expansions? and i know that i need a motherboard and a processor but what about the video card and sound card?
I need some assistance!!!
can i do with a seagate 6.4 gig HD for red hat 6.0? Can i do with a NEC 8x CD-Rom drive? can i do with a P2 233MHz processor? do i need any RAM expansions? and i know that i need a motherboard and a processor but what about the video card and sound card?
I need some assistance!!!
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What do you mean nothing on Ebay? Nothing in your area? There are hundreds of cheap computers on Ebay that would be perfect for you.
That hardware sounds OK, check the 'supported hardware' list at Red Hat's site. Red Hat 6.0 is old, I'm not sure why you've picked that distribution. I'd run a current version of Mandrake if I were you, or a current Red Hat, or a current Fedora (Red Hat is discontinuing free linux distros and Fedora is the new Red Hat for the desktop.)
P2 233 is fine. 6.4 gigs is big enough. More ram the better, try for at least 128 megs, preferably more. You need video and sound cards unless you buy a motherboard with integrated video/sound.
I hope you realize that building a computer is not a trivial matter, and that this will be difficult. Anyway check www.newegg.com for cheap computer parts.
That hardware sounds OK, check the 'supported hardware' list at Red Hat's site. Red Hat 6.0 is old, I'm not sure why you've picked that distribution. I'd run a current version of Mandrake if I were you, or a current Red Hat, or a current Fedora (Red Hat is discontinuing free linux distros and Fedora is the new Red Hat for the desktop.)
P2 233 is fine. 6.4 gigs is big enough. More ram the better, try for at least 128 megs, preferably more. You need video and sound cards unless you buy a motherboard with integrated video/sound.
I hope you realize that building a computer is not a trivial matter, and that this will be difficult. Anyway check www.newegg.com for cheap computer parts.
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Packerdbell has a very bad reputation which is mostly do to being proprietary. If you need to get new parts for it that may be a problem because packerdbell is the only company making parts for that system and you may pay a lot for replacement parts. 233mhz may be a little slow for running KDE/Gnome and I think the minimum is 400mhz for the GUIs on Redhat 9.0 but you can go to redhat.com and look up the system requirements for yourself. I know they do offer distributions that require less clock speed if you want to go that way.
This is a system you may be on the look out or parts to build one.
A case with power supply and preferably a mini tower if you are building.
A mother board. If building study this closely to see what it can support such as below.
A CPU (400mhz+) with a fan that mounts on the chip. Slower CPU if you use a linux distribution that runs on slower chips.
Memory chips (128 to 256megs+) most likely this will be SDRAM 100 or 133mhz but check what your motherboard needs.
Hard drive with 3 gigs to 10 gigs. You can go bigger than 10 gigs but I find 10 gigs is just right for doing most anything.
Network card 10 or 10/100
A video card (preferably with its own memory like a 16meg gforce or something but not important)
A Floppy drive
Keyboard/mouse
A CD-ROM drive (any speed) but this is not necessary if you install Linux through your network card.
Optional:
Modem
Monitor
Sound card/speakers
Now before tracking down any of this junk you should check the compatibility list at linux.org. Now a days its much harder to find hardware that does not work with Linux (besides winmodems) but its a good idea to check just the same. I left a lot of info out concerning each part but as you said you have a friend to help you with the build if it comes to building it yourself. You just need to make sure each part is designed to plug in and work with your motherboard (hard part). Putting it all together is the easy part
Of course if you build just take your time tracking down parts. You don't need to have it built by tomorrow and you have lots of time and good deals to look for. You may even find people at your church to help you out with some part of it be it locating parts, building systems or even using Linux!
This is a system you may be on the look out or parts to build one.
A case with power supply and preferably a mini tower if you are building.
A mother board. If building study this closely to see what it can support such as below.
A CPU (400mhz+) with a fan that mounts on the chip. Slower CPU if you use a linux distribution that runs on slower chips.
Memory chips (128 to 256megs+) most likely this will be SDRAM 100 or 133mhz but check what your motherboard needs.
Hard drive with 3 gigs to 10 gigs. You can go bigger than 10 gigs but I find 10 gigs is just right for doing most anything.
Network card 10 or 10/100
A video card (preferably with its own memory like a 16meg gforce or something but not important)
A Floppy drive
Keyboard/mouse
A CD-ROM drive (any speed) but this is not necessary if you install Linux through your network card.
Optional:
Modem
Monitor
Sound card/speakers
Now before tracking down any of this junk you should check the compatibility list at linux.org. Now a days its much harder to find hardware that does not work with Linux (besides winmodems) but its a good idea to check just the same. I left a lot of info out concerning each part but as you said you have a friend to help you with the build if it comes to building it yourself. You just need to make sure each part is designed to plug in and work with your motherboard (hard part). Putting it all together is the easy part
Of course if you build just take your time tracking down parts. You don't need to have it built by tomorrow and you have lots of time and good deals to look for. You may even find people at your church to help you out with some part of it be it locating parts, building systems or even using Linux!
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yea i found a compy and now im installing linux on it but ill come to you for any other questions
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ahhhhh! Packard Hells
My Recommendation:
Seagates are the best HDs you can buy. NEC isnt bad, its a good company, I use them. . Although 8X and a 233, it depends on what version of Linux and what its support is, I will state that that is a bit slow and most likely may not work or it will run very slow. But then its also Linux not windows But you never know. I dont know what version you plan to use on your machine. My recommendation is that you at least head towards a 450+ but you may slip by with a 233. It depend son how much RAM you have, but RAM isnt bad, its always good to add
well to a point., too much RAM is also bad
ahhhhh! Packard Hells
My Recommendation:
Seagates are the best HDs you can buy. NEC isnt bad, its a good company, I use them. . Although 8X and a 233, it depends on what version of Linux and what its support is, I will state that that is a bit slow and most likely may not work or it will run very slow. But then its also Linux not windows
But you never know. I dont know what version you plan to use on your machine. My recommendation is that you at least head towards a 450+ but you may slip by with a 233. It depend son how much RAM you have, but RAM isnt bad, its always good to add
well to a point., too much RAM is also bad
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