Looking for a study plan

[RTR]

I have been to church before, long time ago. Always felt like it was not the place for me. Just did not feel right. I have been in more than 1, or 2. Always the same feeling.

I'll probably never go to another.

Far as I'm concerned that was just a builing where people dress up, and pretend to be friends. My 2 cents.

Church is in Christ, not a standing building to walk into.

Just wanted to get that out of the way. I have been reading my Bible, KJV/NIV, some other lititure. But I cant seem to get into a study phase. Most of the time I'll just pick it up, and read a couple verses. And at night I'll read a whole paragraph, or a whole chapeter, or more.

I really like to read about prophecy, end times stuff.
And I believe I'm saved. But could improve 110 % lol
I have always been a lonner, and like to keep my distance from people. I can't stand to be around more than 2, or 3 people at one time. Not that I don't like people. I just don't fit well with others.

I was wandering if yall might know of a Real Good study plan that would be interesting to me. I have read the new testament thru a few times. And probably 80% of the old at least twice. And I believe every word of it.

But I'm sure some of it's tranlations from hebrew may be lacking. How do we know that the modern translations man translated was as Inspired as the old time scribes that wrote the first scolls?

I need some thing more than just a basic question and awnser quiz for Newbie's to prophecy.

Thanks for your time.
God Bless You All
Time is Short...........Very Short Even at the Door.

 

[seashale76]

You can't partake of the sacraments unless you go to church and are baptized into Christ. The bible also says not to forsake the assembly of believers. The faith can't be lived out only sitting at home. You can't taste and see that the Lord is good if you're never at church to partake of the Eucharist.

This isn't what you want to hear, but the truth usually isn't when you've already stated you won't go to church. I've been to plenty of shallow and useless churches in my time as well, just as you described. Perhaps you'd be better served to keep searching until you find the Church.

Regarding being saved: I don't say that I am saved as I haven't endured to the end as of yet, as Christ said. My race isn't over and done either.

With all due respect, you seem to know only a very modern and shallow version of the faith that fails on so many levels. The true faith is out there and I welcome you to come and see.

YouTube - Are you saved? - an Orthodox Christian answer.
YouTube - The Orthodox Church - A visual journey

 

[RTR]

I don't believe in Any Denomination, Jesus did not attend a Baptist, or Methodist church that I'm aware of. He also did not preach in the streets to draw attention. The bible says what you do in secret God will reward you openly. I know this has more than the meanning I used it for but still. No where in the bible does it say we have to gather with lots of people to do the will of God, and be saved.


I'm mainly just looking for a study guide to aid in my reasearch.

I believe there will be something for me to contribute to the church when the time is right. People need to know what they are up agenst, more than they need friends in church. Bad times are comming.

 

[heron]

You mentioned the Hebrew -- I really enjoy looking up things in Studylight.org, because the verses link to Strong's word definitions of the Hebrew and Greek. Strong's definitions are old, and I'm sure that archaeology and anthropology fields could update these a little. But they're VERY helpful when a verse doesn't make sense.

StudyLight.org - Plug in, turn on and be enlightened!
(NASB and KJV have the links)
They also have online lexicons of the words

Lexicons available from StudyLight.org

(A few topics to look through, showing differences after using word definitions.)
Scriptural Controversy

You can go on forever within Studylight, reading commentaries or devotionals, different translations. Start paying attention to what usually motivates you -- like end times prophecies or word definitions -- and start building from there. One person's study will be very different from another's.

God sees us as His individual children, and He likes it that way.

You can't partake of the sacraments unless you go to church and are baptized into Christ.

In Orthodoxy and Catholicism (I think), but not in Protestant denominations.


Some people hit a point in their lives where they really need to feel supported. It sounds like right now, you don't see support as coming from a church fellowship, for whatever reasons. Some people go out of obedience and self-discipline, some for corporate worship.

Some people feel that if they left worship and Bible study completely up to themselves, they wouldn't actually do it. You are, and God sees that.

There is one verse -- don't forsake the fellowship of the righteous. But that is about getting together with people of your faith. When the gifts of the Spirit are in action, people build each other up in their individual ministries, and the synergy mixed with kind support can make everyone more effective and content. (Or not.)

Maybe some day it will make more sense. Moses and Abraham did not go to church. David and Solomon went the opposite route. Joseph and Daniel lived in countries of opposing religions. Samuel, Paul and Samson devoted their upbringing to religious education. Each believer had a unique story.

 

[RTR]

Thank you, I'll be looking at those links. And thanks for the kind words. Sometimes we can catch more ants with honey, than salt. lol I guess we each have to find our own path, as long as it's the narrow one. The wide path will lead you to Pagan symbols, and holidays, ect. I have been a wretch my whole life, and I remind God of it on a daily basis. I just wish that I knew for sure about the tribulation, when? Before, Middle, After? That is the kicker. I want to believe the saved will leave before. That is what I get from reading.

 

[Peripatetic]

I do think fellowship with people is very valuable, and I'd encourage you to try it again sometime. That said, have you tried listening to sermons online? There are some great podcasts out there that have really enriched my life. If you listen to a weekly sermon, you'll get that much more of the experience.

 

[heron]

Sometimes we can catch more ants with honey, than salt. lol

Yum, ants.

I just wish that I knew for sure about the tribulation, when? Before, Middle, After? That is the kicker.

Since the discussion hasn't been resolved among theologians who spend their life work on it, I don't think a definitive answer is going to come easily. Unless the event happens. (-;

I just listen to people who have done their research on the End Times, even if they conflict with each other. A thorough one is Perry Stone.

Media Center

Home - Voice of Evangelism - Perry Stone Ministries

I do not listen to John Hagee sermons, but when he gets into prophetic discourse, he's quite knowledgeable. Hal Lindsey is a classic, Jack Van Impe researches with reckless abandon. All of these on the same channel, some locations don't have many choices. Maybe someone can suggest radio shows. Maybe you already have your favorites.

 

[rob64]

i can relate to you. i just cant stand being around people.
CHURCH in the NT never means a building. We are the church. if a couple of believers get together, it's called, "assembling yourselves together".
i think the greek word for church is akklesia, or something like that, and never means a building.
i like to use the good old fassion THOMPSON CHAIN REFERENCE BIBLE along with the good old fassion STRONGS EXAUSTIVE CONCORDANCE OF THE BIBLE. they are pretty cheap to buy in your local christian book store.

 

[YoDude]

I have a similar anti-social personality type, but I consider it a personality defect (everyone has personality 'defects', BTW). We should not overly indulge or defend our personality defects, but rather attempt to understand them and make improvements (but not hating yourself because of them).

You are using the frontal lobe in your assessment that you don't fit in at the church, I doubt the Spirit would tell you the same. You should still try to open your heart to other believers; God is so powerful, he can transform you, even if just for the time at the service, your heart could be opened, and you may find yourself interfacing with the other members of the church, and you will say, 'how did that happen?'. Well, it is God, and he propped you up for the edification of the church and his followers - you will not be a stumbling block to others, nor they to you. Through God's cleansing Spirit, he can wash away your personality 'defects', even if just for an hour a week at the service.

I believe you need to be more open minded about being part of the community of believers. Just be quiet in your mind, get up on Sunday, and go to church; and pay close attention to the preacher, then smile and leave. Keep doing this on some kind of regular basis, and you might find that you will grow, and you will leave your 'I am a loner' thing at home on Sunday morning, and you will be a new creation, for the edification of the church.

 

[heron]

You are using the frontal lobe ...God can transform you...he propped you up...need to be more open minded

Lol, all this brain reference brings an echo of my mother saying, "Sometimes I wonder if your brain is screwed on tight." No insult intended, just reminiscing. Ah, good times.

 

[YoDude]

Lol, all this brain reference brings an echo of my mother saying, "Sometimes I wonder if your brain is screwed on tight." No insult intended, just reminiscing. Ah, good times.

One of my interests is the workings of the mind, emotions, and human interactions. Of course, its just a muse, the Holy Spirit is my true guide.

 

[heron]

more open minded about being part of the community of believers.

It might be true that many people are dressed up for the ritual. But I remember when my kids were young, that's what it felt like, no matter how authentic I wanted to be. There was a race to get everyone dressed and fed, to arrive at the precise time, without unmatching socks and wrinkly clothes.

Sometimes we just ignored what people would say, and looked scruffy. It seemed to me the time in the week that was hardest to focus on God, because there was so much to get right at once. That didn't mean it was wrong. I just had to look at it as temporary.

There are so many churches now that encourage people to dress as they want, there is a pleasant mix of jeans and suits. Not everyone who walks in a church door is a long-time Christian, and not everyone is an authentic believer.

But these are people who have chosen to set themselves to learn more, connect with the Body more, and find a disciplined, set time in their week to worship God.

I liked the suggestion to just go through motions without getting too involved. I also like to take an alternate route -- consider yourself a free agent, a soldier for the Lord that has been give special assignment. You are not in the homogeneous army, but sent to do very specific work while you are there. Listen for your instructions.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

r u still looking for truth in Yhwh, Y'shua, Scripture, Life ? (i don't trust man/chruch/namkind(sic/sic))

(btw, i only read your first post, the op. i may come back later to see if you responded here, or msg me, or not, Yhwh willing - His Plan and Purpose is Best ! )

I have been to church before, long time ago. Always felt like it was not the place for me. Just did not feel right. I have been in more than 1, or 2. Always the same feeling.
I'll probably never go to another.
Far as I'm concerned that was just a builing where people dress up, and pretend to be friends. My 2 cents.
Church is in Christ, not a standing building to walk into.
Just wanted to get that out of the way. I have been reading my Bible, KJV/NIV, some other lititure. But I cant seem to get into a study phase. Most of the time I'll just pick it up, and read a couple verses. And at night I'll read a whole paragraph, or a whole chapeter, or more.
I really like to read about prophecy, end times stuff.
And I believe I'm saved. But could improve 110 % lol
I have always been a lonner, and like to keep my distance from people. I can't stand to be around more than 2, or 3 people at one time. Not that I don't like people. I just don't fit well with others.
I was wandering if y'all might know of a Real Good study plan that would be interesting to me. I have read the new testament thru a few times. And probably 80% of the old at least twice. And I believe every word of it.
But I'm sure some of it's translations from hebrew may be lacking. How do we know that the modern translations man translated was as Inspired as the old time scribes that wrote the first scrolls?
I need some thing more than just a basic question and answer quiz for Newbie's to prophecy.
Thanks for your time.
God Bless You All
Time is Short...........Very Short Even at the Door.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

rob64.... r u still reading / visiting here?

i got a message from you, years ago, and tried to reply today(i've been gone a while),

but looks like there's no way to.

i can relate to you. i just cant stand being around people.
CHURCH in the NT never means a building. We are the church. if a couple of believers get together, it's called, "assembling yourselves together".
i think the greek word for church is akklesia, or something like that, and never means a building.
i like to use the good old fassion THOMPSON CHAIN REFERENCE BIBLE along with the good old fassion STRONGS EXAUSTIVE CONCORDANCE OF THE BIBLE. they are pretty cheap to buy in your local christian book store.

 

[turned around]

Hi RTR,
Ask the Spirit to take you on a journey through the book of romans.

 

[dhh712]

i can relate to you. i just cant stand being around people.
CHURCH in the NT never means a building. We are the church. if a couple of believers get together, it's called, "assembling yourselves together".
i think the greek word for church is akklesia, or something like that, and never means a building.
i like to use the good old fassion THOMPSON CHAIN REFERENCE BIBLE along with the good old fassion STRONGS EXAUSTIVE CONCORDANCE OF THE BIBLE. they are pretty cheap to buy in your local christian book store.

It doesn't have to be a building, but it is convenient to have one. If you came to a church truly seeking spiritual fulfillment and did not feel welcome there, I would suspect you have encountered a church which is not feeding people from the word of God. It seems from what I hear that lots of churches have discarded the sacred blood of Christ for cisterns which can not hold any water.

I hope you will not give up finding a church whose central aim is to glorify God and not humans (even though this was posted some four years ago--yet, others might be encountering the same problem). I hope that you will pray that God will lead you a church where you will find spiritual fulfilment; unfortunately, the curse of the world is that there is much spiritual desolation in it. Nonetheless, fellowship with other believers is a way to edifying oneself in the faith and it is such a wonderful thing to meet with other believers and to experience a strengthening of faith from God by it.

 

[cerette]

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