Looking at Pron ( you know what I mean)

[darktipper]

Like you, for some reason women hate my guts. The Bible says that a man can have nothing unless God gives to him and it also says a wife/wives is/are a gift/s from God. Therefore, if you do not have a wife or wives (as I indicated on another thread, contrary to Christian teaching, polygyny is compatible with biblical teaching) it is because God has chosen to deny you what you want and need. Alas, it is the same for me.

However, I don't do pron as it doesn't do me any good.

They don't really hate my guts it are just the ones who wanted me and I rejected them... because I was not into them. I told God he would have to drop the right one right in front of me neon sign and stuff lol.

 

[amandatea]

Is it a bad thing to watch it time from time? What if one does not want to get married but has an itch and use porn as an out? I know it is not an excuse to take the edge off but will God understand especially if marriage is no where near in the future. So why doesn't God take away the lustful feelings even if you ask him too?

Does he use that as an incentive to push people to find mates? Personally I don't want to get married due to my past experiences kind of dating. Still trying to forgive fully being wronged many years ago. I know the bible says he does not hear the prayers of sinners, so does that mean that I am helpless in trying to pray for forgiveness? It seems like a bad cycle with no end of repent and doing it again. I feel like God kind of turned away from me since I turned from him a bit.

I have to first say, this post is going to be rambling, so I apologize. But I sincerely hope it helps the OP.

Yes, it is bad to watch porn. Even occasionally. Why? We have to understand what porn does to us. I am a former porn addict (it seems like there's a lot of discussion about porn on here lately or maybe I just never noticed it before) and I have fought the habit. Jesus helped me with it and I think probably without his help I would still be helpless to it. Anyway, I digress:

Porn does not just stimulate our hormones/desires but it changes the way we think about people - seeing them as objects instead of precious creations of God. All of the parts of our being - physical, emotional, mental, psychological are all intertwined. God does not give us rules, guidelines to make our lives boring and difficult. He gives us those things because He loves us and wants the very best for us. He has our complete health in mind when He commands these things. It doesn't hurt God (except in the way that it hurts you when you see someone you love doing something you know will destroy them) when we do these things: it hurts us, more than we realize.

Porn also is a progressive thing (at least it was for me and I'm going to hypothesize that it is for many people). I won't go into the details but when I had the habit, what I watched would start to get boring so I would look for videos with more and more deviancy. It got pretty bad.

It can be tough feeling that you will never be married, and therefore will never be "allowed" to have sex. I'm not saying that to discount the decision you have made. I too have decided that I won't get married, but with Jesus, who knows what will happen down the line. People also change their minds.

Moving on.. I am a woman, therefore, obviously, I don't know what it's like to be a man. I don't know how much stronger the lust factor is for a man, but for me, it seems almost like Jesus has turned that part "off" in a way. I still have weak moments, and I have relapsed a couple of times in the past couple of years, but I also noticed looking back, those times when I backslid were times when I was not close with Jesus and I wasn't even really focusing on Jesus at all in my life. Whenever I was focused on Him, I didn't really have an issue. The most solid times though are when I seek to live a holy life and ask for strength from Jesus to withstand temptation.

We can put that energy into serving Jesus. There is lots of work to be done and He can use all the servants who are truly willing to surrender to him. You are single and you can use that to your advantage to serve the Lord.


You are correct, I believe, in that God does not listen to those who are willingly and knowingly living a sinful lifestyle. But he does have mercy and will give you grace if you sincerely seek Him and ask for help and guidance for this. If you really want the truth and to do God's will, ask Him to show you.

I used to sleep with my (now ex-)boyfriend and I asked Jesus to show me if it was wrong. To convict me if it wasn't the right thing to do and to give me the strength to stop if it was wrong. And it didn't happen immediately, and I lost my boyfriend over it (well that and other issues) but He did show me eventually, and I got a heavy conviction about it. I cried for a week about the idea of losing my boyfriend, but did talk to him (bf) and tell him that I didn't feel right about sleeping with him anymore. I wanted to be doing God's will and that was far more important than having sex. I really hope you will search your conscience and seek Jesus on this and that you will ask for God's will in your life. Feel free to PM me if you ever want to talk or anything as well.

 

[HonestTruth]

They don't really hate my guts it are just the ones who wanted me and I rejected them... because I was not into them. I told God he would have to drop the right one right in front of me neon sign and stuff lol.

Unluckily for me I did not quite have those options as women have always hated my guts.

Next time just tell any gal who approaches you that she needs to obey the New Testament commandment to call you "Master" as all ideal Christian women are commanded to do. If they pledge to do so, then maybe you'll get the rewarding relationship you're looking for.

Me? Don't have that option, sad to say.

 

[darktipper]

Unluckily for me I did not quite have those options as women have always hated my guts.

Next time just tell any gal who approaches you that she needs to obey the New Testament commandment to call you "Master" as all ideal Christian women are commanded to do. If they pledge to do so, then maybe you'll get the rewarding relationship you're looking for.

Me? Don't have that option, sad to say.

Too much drama.... not even going that route... porn is better than any relationship I have had lol. No arguments. Nothing....

 

[Tylyr]

Too much drama.... not even going that route... porn is better than any relationship I have had lol. No arguments. Nothing....

There is much more to relationships than sex...if that is all you look for in a relationship I think you should reconsider what a relationship actually is.

 

[amandatea]

Unluckily for me I did not quite have those options as women have always hated my guts.

Next time just tell any gal who approaches you that she needs to obey the New Testament commandment to call you "Master" as all ideal Christian women are commanded to do. If they pledge to do so, then maybe you'll get the rewarding relationship you're looking for.

Me? Don't have that option, sad to say.

Lol um, not to start a debate, but that's a pretty twisted view of the new testament. Immediately after Paul implores wives to submit to their husband, he also tells husbands to love their wives as Christ loves the church (an ongoing action). Make sure you're not taking that out of context to suit your wishes.

 

[HonestTruth]

Lol um, not to start a debate, but that's a pretty twisted view of the new testament. Immediately after Paul implores wives to submit to their husband, he also tells husbands to love their wives as Christ loves the church (an ongoing action). Make sure you're not taking that out of context to suit your wishes.

Trust me when I tell you that there isn't a living human being on earth today who knows the New Testament any better than I do. Therefore, you needn't trouble yourself to give me instructions on it.

Now back up a little bit - if you read my post completely you would see that in full context my posts about him finding a loving relationship. How he conducts his daily affairs is his business, not mine or yours. One would hope that it is in compliance with New Testament law. But that is up to him. We can expand on the subject of relationships but that's a little ahead of the game for the moment.

 

[HonestTruth]

Too much drama.... not even going that route... porn is better than any relationship I have had lol. No arguments. Nothing....

Haha - ok. No argument from me ...

 

[amandatea]

Trust me when I tell you that there isn't a living human being on earth today who knows the New Testament any better than I do. Therefore, you needn't trouble yourself to give me instructions on it.

Now back up a little bit - if you read my post completely you would see that in full context my posts about him finding a loving relationship. How he conducts his daily affairs is his business, not mine or yours. One would hope that it is in compliance with New Testament law. But that is up to him. We can expand on the subject of relationships but that's a little ahead of the game for the moment.

I'm sorry: I didn't see any other context in that post - maybe it was in your previous post. It just irritates me when I see a "the man is the master" sort of attitude. But anyhow....

 

[HonestTruth]

^ NP. But as for who is the master (or is supposed to be), if you're Christian then Peter's instructions dictate what is to be. Not my opinion, just that this is what it says.

 

[amandatea]

^ NP. But as for who is the master (or is supposed to be), if you're Christian then Peter's instructions dictate what is to be. Not my opinion, just that this is what it says.

Yea, I don't have a problem with the whole concept, in general. I'm a very "old fashioned" person. I think families would work better if we had a set-up in the homes like the way the new testament describes...It is a very systematic, orderly set-up, and under Jesus, it works.

The thing I have a problem with is the attitude that a lot of men seem to have, that they're the boss and their woman deserves no respect and is to be used.

It's that's not what you meant which it seems you didn't, that's fine. That just got my dander up, I guess.

 

[HonestTruth]

Yea, I don't have a problem with the whole concept, in general. I'm a very "old fashioned" person. I think families would work better if we had a set-up in the homes like the way the new testament describes...It is a very systematic, orderly set-up, and under Jesus, it works.

The thing I have a problem with is the attitude that a lot of men seem to have, that they're the boss and their woman deserves no respect and is to be used.

It's that's not what you meant which it seems you didn't, that's fine. That just got my dander up, I guess.

Dunno if you're old enough to remember this but it sparked some controversy (as well as some strong corroboration) back in 1972:

Mrs Morgan was a subscriber to Apostle Peter's view. It was said back then that the first group of families to subscribe to this was the 1972 Miami Dolphins. Maybe that's why they went undefeated and won the Super Bowl that year (???).

 

[darktipper]

I have to first say, this post is going to be rambling, so I apologize. But I sincerely hope it helps the OP.

Yes, it is bad to watch porn. Even occasionally. Why? We have to understand what porn does to us. I am a former porn addict (it seems like there's a lot of discussion about porn on here lately or maybe I just never noticed it before) and I have fought the habit. Jesus helped me with it and I think probably without his help I would still be helpless to it. Anyway, I digress:

Porn does not just stimulate our hormones/desires but it changes the way we think about people - seeing them as objects instead of precious creations of God. All of the parts of our being - physical, emotional, mental, psychological are all intertwined. God does not give us rules, guidelines to make our lives boring and difficult. He gives us those things because He loves us and wants the very best for us. He has our complete health in mind when He commands these things. It doesn't hurt God (except in the way that it hurts you when you see someone you love doing something you know will destroy them) when we do these things: it hurts us, more than we realize.

Porn also is a progressive thing (at least it was for me and I'm going to hypothesize that it is for many people). I won't go into the details but when I had the habit, what I watched would start to get boring so I would look for videos with more and more deviancy. It got pretty bad.

It can be tough feeling that you will never be married, and therefore will never be "allowed" to have sex. I'm not saying that to discount the decision you have made. I too have decided that I won't get married, but with Jesus, who knows what will happen down the line. People also change their minds.

Moving on.. I am a woman, therefore, obviously, I don't know what it's like to be a man. I don't know how much stronger the lust factor is for a man, but for me, it seems almost like Jesus has turned that part "off" in a way. I still have weak moments, and I have relapsed a couple of times in the past couple of years, but I also noticed looking back, those times when I backslid were times when I was not close with Jesus and I wasn't even really focusing on Jesus at all in my life. Whenever I was focused on Him, I didn't really have an issue. The most solid times though are when I seek to live a holy life and ask for strength from Jesus to withstand temptation.

We can put that energy into serving Jesus. There is lots of work to be done and He can use all the servants who are truly willing to surrender to him. You are single and you can use that to your advantage to serve the Lord.


You are correct, I believe, in that God does not listen to those who are willingly and knowingly living a sinful lifestyle. But he does have mercy and will give you grace if you sincerely seek Him and ask for help and guidance for this. If you really want the truth and to do God's will, ask Him to show you.

I used to sleep with my (now ex-)boyfriend and I asked Jesus to show me if it was wrong. To convict me if it wasn't the right thing to do and to give me the strength to stop if it was wrong. And it didn't happen immediately, and I lost my boyfriend over it (well that and other issues) but He did show me eventually, and I got a heavy conviction about it. I cried for a week about the idea of losing my boyfriend, but did talk to him (bf) and tell him that I didn't feel right about sleeping with him anymore. I wanted to be doing God's will and that was far more important than having sex. I really hope you will search your conscience and seek Jesus on this and that you will ask for God's will in your life. Feel free to PM me if you ever want to talk or anything as well.

What if you asked him what is his will and nothing happens?

 

[RAM253]

Just want to say, this was a very touching story. I have and am struggling with this very topic now. And it is affecting my marriage. I have tried and tried to completely cut out porn and have been successful for short periods of time but I fall back to it.. I never realised my issue until I accepted Christ as my saviour. Now, it seems I am not strong enough to conquer this. I am asking the Lord but am also hesitant. Its scary to think about giving up a thing that has been "dependable" or "comforting" and something that doesn't turn me down and is there when I "need it".. your statement about it progressing is spot on.. at first it was great, then I needed a different type or genre.. and it goes on and on... I have disappointed my wife who also struggles with her own faults and addictions, recently discovered a porn star on my instagram follow list.. she has tied 2 & 2 together and now despises me... she is throwing everything at me, if the kitchen sink wasn't attached to the counter I'm sure it would be in my lap.. I have since deleted everything, downloaded this very app and am truly wanting to finally knick this habit and addiction in the butt.. I just don't know how.. I am praying.. but find myself being tempted.. glancing at a women (as an object) and its hurting me.. I don't want to lose my wife.. my kids or anything for a couple of naked women... Please pray for me, as I will for you.. thank you for sharing

 

[dvdscott]

Just want to say, this was a very touching story. I have and am struggling with this very topic now. And it is affecting my marriage. I have tried and tried to completely cut out porn and have been successful for short periods of time but I fall back to it.. I never realised my issue until I accepted Christ as my saviour. Now, it seems I am not strong enough to conquer this. I am asking the Lord but am also hesitant. Its scary to think about giving up a thing that has been "dependable" or "comforting" and something that doesn't turn me down and is there when I "need it".. your statement about it progressing is spot on.. at first it was great, then I needed a different type or genre.. and it goes on and on... I have disappointed my wife who also struggles with her own faults and addictions, recently discovered a porn star on my instagram follow list.. she has tied 2 & 2 together and now despises me... she is throwing everything at me, if the kitchen sink wasn't attached to the counter I'm sure it would be in my lap.. I have since deleted everything, downloaded this very app and am truly wanting to finally knick this habit and addiction in the butt.. I just don't know how.. I am praying.. but find myself being tempted.. glancing at a women (as an object) and its hurting me.. I don't want to lose my wife.. my kids or anything for a couple of naked women... Please pray for me, as I will for you.. thank you for sharing

I understand completely where you come from. Just pray for the strength to defeat your porn addiction in Jesus' name and God will bless you with it. Knowing that I'm not too strong on my own, I do my best to make sure to ask God for the strength to deal with everything that I'll have to go through every day and IMO it works and it helps. I feel a lot stronger in Christ than I ever did on my own.