Looking at pieces in Daniel

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Again you have discern what events took place leading up to the destruction of Jerusalem, and what events were prophesied after the desolations of Jerusalem.

For instance Mark 13:7 speaks of things that would happen after the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel.(as spoken in Mark 13:14)

Jesus was reflecting on both long term, and short term events; but like I said the past is a reflection of future events.

The sealing up of something is to close it up from sight.

In Daniel 12:9 Daniel is told "for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end."

Jesus (Word of God) is the light of the world, when the light of the truth left the world, mens minds were darkened from seeing the truth.

But though the world could not see Him(Word of Truth) his disciples could see him, and understand the mysteries hid in God. This was because they had the light dwelling in them.

But the end time mysteries spoken to Daniel, and revealed in Revelation to John would be sealed up and closed till the time of the end.

Jesus(lion and lamb) is shown opening up these sealed up mysteries in Revelation.

Revelation 5:2
And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
Revelation 5:5
And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Revelation 5:9
And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Revelation 6:1
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.


Each one of these seals would be opened up in there own time, and be revealed to the Lord's disciples in their own time.

Revelation 10:7 :"But in the days of the voice of the 7th angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he has declared to his servants the prophets."

This makes good sense, because I see a sealing up of the law "among my disciples" too, and he "opened their minds" to understand the scriptures (the words of the book which are sealed). It appears to be speaking of the "revelation of Jesus Christ" even to the mystery of Christ in you" too. Because the servants of the prophets did prophesy of "the grace that was to be brought to you" by the revelation of Jesus Christ (who comes to give us an understanding). Or so something very similiar, as Peter saying, Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Yes, I did see the division I am not putting them together but getting a feel of the wording between them, I can see the divisions within them. Just as Messiah is cut off (and it speaks of the war desolations) Jesus seems to be affirming (even before he is cut off there).

Thanks bro, and I know I compare strangely in various ways at first to make sure I understand the wording between them (without regard for the division at first). It helps me to get better aquainted to divide it (after) seeing how both ends speak.

Pretty kool how its seven seven seals and the Lamb slain having seven spirits (we were talking about the seven eyes) and these being sent into the earth and how the eyes of our understanding need to be enlightened.

But yeah, he speaks of closing the eyes of your seers (prophets) too. Theres alot just here in that I could have a smorgasboard on.

Kool, I'll stay with this first then and wait on this a bit more to make sure I better understand before moving forward here

Thanks bro God bless you

 

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SpiritInTruth, two questions, what of this...

Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

"From where" is this counted from that it's mentioned there?

And the other, when it speaks of days shortened from where (or between which) do you know?

Just curious, still looking at this

 

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SpiritInTruth, two questions, what of this...

Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

"From where" is this counted from that it's mentioned there?

And the other, when it speaks of days shortened from where (or between which) do you know?

Just curious, still looking at this

Daniel 12:7-13

King James Version (KJV)


7And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
8And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

This prophecy given to Daniel speaks of the end of days, or Christs second coming. There are several reasons I say this. First notice in the last verse Daniel was told that he would stand in his lot at the end of the days.

The Lord promised the children of Israel in the old testament that they would inherit the land of Canaan, and it was to be their lot. We know that won't happen until Christ reigns on earth for a thousand years(meek shall inherit the earth.)

The second reason I say this is because of verse 7 which says it shall be for a time, times, and a half. Compare that to Revelation 12:14 where the woman who gave birth to the man-child fled into the wilderness from the evil spiritual flood waters, and is nourished for a time, times, and half a time.

This period of time is confirmed in Revelation 12:6 but is shown as 1,260 days, which is 42 months. This time is not literal, but is rather a sign of time. We know this by going to Revelation 11:2 where we see the period of time the Gentiles would trample under foot the holy city; which is 42 months, or 1,260 days.

We know this time is not literal because from 70 a.d. to 1948 the Gentiles have had possesion of the holy city. I believe this first part (of the three total parts) of this prophecy, or 42 months was fulfilled in 1948.

Which brings us to the next part of the prophecy in Daniel 12:11 where it says from the time the daily sacrifice was taken away, until the abomination of desolation is set up, it shall be 1,290 days, which is 43 months.

We know this prophecy can't be refering to Christs first coming because it was 37 years after Christ was crucified that Jerusalem was destroyed. So the time shown must be symbolic, or a sign of time.

Heres is the sign. 37 years x 360 days in a year is 13320. If you divide that number in half you can see the sign of the dividing of the kingdom, or 6660. Also if you take the difference between the 1,290 days, and the 1,260 days you will get 30. Now divide 13320 by 30 = 444.

I know these numbers don't mean much of any thing to you but all these numbers are connected to scripture, and they can only be discerned by way of the Holy Spirit. Here's another sign of that same thing in Matthew 13:33 (notice the verse number) Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and his in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

If you divide the verse number of 1333 by the 3 measures of meal you will see the same sign as above; which 444. This time is yet to be fulfilled.

The last sign of time shown to Daniel is the sign of 1335 days, 44.5 months. And if you recall our conversations in the past about the curtains in the tabernacle, I bet that sign will come back to you.

What is interesting about the period of 37 years is that it is shown over and over in time for those who can see it. Just like the flood in Noah's days from start to finish was 370 days. The multiples sometimes change, but it is the signs of time that remain the same.

Oh yeah, we don't know from what start point the days shall be shortened,( thats why no one will know the hour, or the day) but we do know how much they shall be shortened.

 

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Daniel 12:7-13

King James Version (KJV)


7And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
8And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

This prophecy given to Daniel speaks of the end of days, or Christs second coming. There are several reasons I say this. First notice in the last verse Daniel was told that he would stand in his lot at the end of the days.

The Lord promised the children of Israel in the old testament that they would inherit the land of Canaan, and it was to be their lot. We know that won't happen until Christ reigns on earth for a thousand years(meek shall inherit the earth.)

The second reason I say this is because of verse 7 which says it shall be for a time, times, and a half. Compare that to Revelation 12:14 where the woman who gave birth to the man-child fled into the wilderness from the evil spiritual flood waters, and is nourished for a time, times, and half a time.

This period of time is confirmed in Revelation 12:6 but is shown as 1,260 days, which is 42 months. This time is not literal, but is rather a sign of time. We know this by going to Revelation 11:2 where we see the period of time the Gentiles would trample under foot the holy city; which is 42 months, or 1,260 days.

We know this time is not literal because from 70 a.d. to 1948 the Gentiles have had possesion of the holy city. I believe this first part (of the three total parts) of this prophecy, or 42 months was fulfilled in 1948.

Which brings us to the next part of the prophecy in Daniel 12:11 where it says from the time the daily sacrifice was taken away, until the abomination of desolation is set up, it shall be 1,290 days, which is 43 months.

We know this prophecy can't be refering to Christs first coming because it was 37 years after Christ was crucified that Jerusalem was destroyed. So the time shown must be symbolic, or a sign of time.

Heres is the sign. 37 years x 360 days in a year is 13320. If you divide that number in half you can see the sign of the dividing of the kingdom, or 6660. Also if you take the difference between the 1,290 days, and the 1,260 days you will get 30. Now divide 13320 by 30 = 444.

I know these numbers don't mean much of any thing to you but all these numbers are connected to scripture, and they can only be discerned by way of the Holy Spirit. Here's another sign of that same thing in Matthew 13:33 (notice the verse number) Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and his in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

If you divide the verse number of 1333 by the 3 measures of meal you will see the same sign as above; which 444. This time is yet to be fulfilled.

The last sign of time shown to Daniel is the sign of 1335 days, 44.5 months. And if you recall our conversations in the past about the curtains in the tabernacle, I bet that sign will come back to you.

What is interesting about the period of 37 years is that it is shown over and over in time for those who can see it. Just like the flood in Noah's days from start to finish was 370 days. The multiples sometimes change, but it is the signs of time that remain the same.

Oh yeah, we don't know from what start point the days shall be shortened,( thats why no one will know the hour, or the day) but we do know how much they shall be shortened.

There has got to be an easier way

I'll clip this one here, those points in red, FROM (and)? Are they inclusive here (of one another)?

11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

The time gets longer from the first time (1290 days) but blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to (1335 days)

And in revelation 1260... Im so lost

There has got to be a way to know this stuff without needing a fully equipped calculator (and dont say it)

Alright... I think this time I will put Daniel aside (again) I just cannot know it and I will resign myself to this now.

I think (now) it will be easier to just love folks and for me to forget about the book of Daniel. I'll put my efforts into where they count for something (without needing a calculator)

Someone had to mess with that book (because never in my life) have I had such difficulty lol

I officially give up on Daniel, if you catch me interested again remind me of this post (promise me)

Thanks for giving that one a go bro (I did ask)

God bless you

 

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There has got to be an easier way

I'll clip this one here, those points in red, FROM (and)? Are they inclusive here (of one another)?



The time gets longer from the first time (1290 days) but blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to (1335 days)

And in revelation 1260... Im so lost

There has got to be a way to know this stuff without needing a fully equipped calculator (and dont say it)

Alright... I think this time I will put Daniel aside (again) I just cannot know it and I will resign myself to this now.

I think (now) it will be easier to just love folks and for me to forget about the book of Daniel. I'll put my efforts into where they count for something (without needing a calculator)

Someone had to mess with that book (because never in my life) have I had such difficulty lol

I officially give up on Daniel, if you catch me interested again remind me of this post (promise me)

Thanks for giving that one a go bro (I did ask)

God bless you

Remember the third parts? It is just simple reasoning that 42 months comes before 43 months and 44.5 months comes after that.

But the numbers are given as signs of times, and very few will understand them, just like the number of the man/beast. That is why the Lord said let him that has understanding count the number.

Jesus said now is the judgement of this world. Remember the breasplate of judgement? It was 9 by 9 = 18 If you divide 666 by 18 = 37

The signs are everywhere.

 

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Remember the third parts? It is just simple reasoning that 42 months comes before 43 months and 44.5 months comes after that.

Yeah! now look at this ^ and thats ALL ya had to say!

OK we are getting somewheres (after I left)

But the numbers are given as signs of times, and very few will understand them, just like the number of the man/beast. That is why the Lord said let him that has understanding count the number.

Well I am just poop out of luck here in the understanding department thats for sure (I cant count sheep) lol

He wont blame me if I am made like the ostrich (deprived of wisdom) here will He? lol

Jesus said now is the judgement of this world. Remember the breasplate of judgement? It was 9 by 9 = 18 If you divide 666 by 18 = 37

The signs are everywhere.

Ive so gotta get me a math tutor (the signs ARE everywhere)

 

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Yeah! now look at this ^ and thats ALL ya had to say!

OK we are getting somewheres (after I left)



Well I am just poop out of luck here in the understanding department thats for sure (I cant count sheep) lol

He wont blame me if I am made like the ostrich (deprived of wisdom) here will He? lol

Ive so gotta get me a math tutor (the signs ARE everywhere)

1 Corinthians 12:14-27

King James Version (KJV)


14For the body is not one member, but many.
15If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
16And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
17If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
18But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
19And if they were all one member, where were the body?
20But now are they many members, yet but one body.
21And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
22Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:
23And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.
24For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked.
25That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
26And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. 27Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

Cheer up my fellow Body part.

 

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1 Corinthians 12:14-27

King James Version (KJV)


14For the body is not one member, but many.
15If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
16And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
17If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
18But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
19And if they were all one member, where were the body?
20But now are they many members, yet but one body.
21And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
22Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:
23And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.
24For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked.
25That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
26And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. 27Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

Cheer up my fellow Body part.

Awh

Hey, you know that has to include you must suffer with me when I am suffering badly with my math huh?

I think I am the foot, and I know (for a fact) that the butt cannot say it hath no need of me...

Yeah... I like that

 

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Awh

Hey, you know that has to include you must suffer with me when I am suffering badly with my math huh?

I think I am the foot, and I know (for a fact) that the butt cannot say it hath no need of me...

Yeah... I like that

 

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