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How is that truth? Are you saying that people who do not protest at abortion clinics do not think that life matters?
Blacks have a higher abortion rates than other races, and more blacks today are born out of wedlock than in. The point is why do the protest on the streets when blacks are killed by police or when blacks are beat up ECT and yet they are not nearly as outraged at the number of black mothers having their babies aborted.
 
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Blacks have a higher abortion rates than other races, and more blacks today are born out of wedlock than in. The point is why do the protest on the streets when blacks are killed by police or when blacks are beat up ECT and yet they are not nearly as outraged at the number of black mothers having their babies aborted.

You are missing the big overgeneralization that leads to more stereotypes. The title suggests that black people are being hypocritical by not protesting at abortion clinics, when I am sure they are black people who do protest abortion clinics. So again because a whole race of people do not protest abortion clinics after an incident with the police, Black people do not really care about black lives? Do you see how backwards that is?
 
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Blacks have a higher abortion rates than other races, and more blacks today are born out of wedlock than in. The point is why do the protest on the streets when blacks are killed by police or when blacks are beat up ECT and yet they are not nearly as outraged at the number of black mothers having their babies aborted.

Wow.

How much of that did you just make up? A quick glance at several reports on abortion show that abortions are performed equally on black and white women thru to a slight majority of white women having abortions, particularly in recent years.

Also, where do you get your figures to support the claim that most black kids are born out of wedlock and why is that important?

Wouldn't be a little racial stereotyping going on here, would there?

Regardless of that, how do you draw a line between people CHOOSING to undertake a particular medical procedure and the skewed pattern of violence towards black people by law enforcement?
 
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Wow.

How much of that did you just make up? A quick glance at several reports on abortion show that abortions are performed equally on black and white women thru to a slight majority of white women having abortions, particularly in recent years.

Also, where do you get your figures to support the claim that most black kids are born out of wedlock and why is that important?

Wouldn't be a little racial stereotyping going on here, would there?

Regardless of that, how do you draw a line between people CHOOSING to undertake a particular medical procedure and the skewed pattern of violence towards black people by law enforcement?

You seemed to have missed the point. While 36% of abortions were by non-hispanic white women, black women accounted for 30%. (Guttmacher)

If you look at the percentage of black women having abortions to the percentage of black population, the numbers are alarming.

These two articles should help you see the picture as a whole:

The Case Against Abortion: Abortion and Race

NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born | CNS News


The main point is that protesting police saying "black lives matter" while basically ignoring the abortion epidemic is quite hypocritical. IF black lives matter to these people, they would also have a huge presence at the clinics where unborn black people are killed daily. OR...even better, they would be better at assisting their fellow black brothers and sisters when they find themselves in a situation where abortion is an option.

But really, when you look at who's protesting at abortion clinics, you're going to find a lot of conservative religious people, and they're usually white.
 
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You seemed to have missed the point. While 36% of abortions were by non-hispanic white women, black women accounted for 30%. (Guttmacher)

If you look at the percentage of black women having abortions to the percentage of black population, the numbers are alarming.

These two articles should help you see the picture as a whole:

The Case Against Abortion: Abortion and Race

NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born | CNS News


The main point is that protesting police saying "black lives matter" while basically ignoring the abortion epidemic is quite hypocritical. IF black lives matter to these people, they would also have a huge presence at the clinics where unborn black people are killed daily. OR...even better, they would be better at assisting their fellow black brothers and sisters when they find themselves in a situation where abortion is an option.

But really, when you look at who's protesting at abortion clinics, you're going to find a lot of conservative religious people, and they're usually white.

Wow are you really going there? So you are saying conservative religious people care more about black lives than black people because they protest at abortion clinics? The Sherriff obviously made that statement to get the focus off the police and call out the protesters. You fell for his ploy. How as a Christian can you call a whole race hypocritical? Why not trying seeing people as individuals. How many times have you protested at the abortion clinics? Can I argue you don't care about black life, or white life, or Asian life. This whole argument doesn't make sense. I will sincerely be praying for you!
 
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You seemed to have missed the point. While 36% of abortions were by non-hispanic white women, black women accounted for 30%. (Guttmacher)

If you look at the percentage of black women having abortions to the percentage of black population, the numbers are alarming.

These two articles should help you see the picture as a whole:

The Case Against Abortion: Abortion and Race

NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born | CNS News


The main point is that protesting police saying "black lives matter" while basically ignoring the abortion epidemic is quite hypocritical. IF black lives matter to these people, they would also have a huge presence at the clinics where unborn black people are killed daily. OR...even better, they would be better at assisting their fellow black brothers and sisters when they find themselves in a situation where abortion is an option.

But really, when you look at who's protesting at abortion clinics, you're going to find a lot of conservative religious people, and they're usually white.

I join with chapmic. Wow.

There is just so much wrong here, statistical analysis aside.

Your premise is based upon a claim that aborting a small bunch of cells, a few days old, is somehow equal to the shooting or strangling of unarmed people on the streets. Now, YOU may feel that you can make that equation, but a large majority of people would disagree with you, judging by the public support for abortion services.

So, by all means, if YOU think it hypocritical to support access to abortion services AND protest the very skewed pattern of police violence towards blacks, then I wouldn't do those two things if I were you!

Fortunately, yours is a very minor view. One can only hope, in the interests of an open and more tolerant society, that it continues to become more isolated.
 
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IF black lives matter to these people, they would also have a huge presence at the clinics where unborn black people are killed daily.



Exactly! So they can support the black mothers who are aborting.

Mothers who have unwanted children, probably wouldn't care too much about them.
 
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Im a Christian who believes abortion is murder, so yes, I think it's hypocritical to say black lives matter while thousands of unborn black children are killed daily. If that's warped logic so be it.
 
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Im a Christian who believes abortion is murder, so yes, I think it's hypocritical to say black lives matter while thousands of unborn black children are killed daily. If that's warped logic so be it.

Then as I said before, please don't put yourself in the position of protesting over black deaths by police, while you're also picketing an abortion clinic!

I guess, in your mind, to do so would make you a hypocrite.

And the rest of us will also continue to do what we think is right.

Oh, by the way. I certainly hope you don't mourn the deaths of our servicemen in their duties around the world?

Because the majority of those deaths are white. The majority of aborted fetuses are white. So, using your 'logic' once again, any white person who mourns those white servicemen deaths would be a hypocrite.

Right?
 
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It's hard to argue with a person who has completely missed the original point of the thread.

I hope you have a good night.

Oh, I know the point of the thread!

It was to loosely stitch together a hateful, racist, mean, bigoted, prejudiced stereotype of a group of people, while at the same time pushing your minority view barrow concerning the appropriateness of abortion - and all of it completely logic-free!
 
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It's hard to argue with a person who has completely missed the original point of the thread.

It's hard to have a reasonable discussion with someone who denies inconsistencies in their logic.
 
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Im a Christian who believes abortion is murder, so yes, I think it's hypocritical to say black lives matter while thousands of unborn black children are killed daily. If that's warped logic so be it.
Well, hypocrisy doesn´t mean "not living up to PreacherWife´s convictions", but "not living up to one´s own convictions".
 
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quatona said:
Well, hypocrisy doesn´t mean "not living up to PreacherWife´s convictions", but "not living up to one´s own convictions".

So it's okay that black lives matter in one area but not the other?
 
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madaz said:
It's hard to have a reasonable discussion with someone who denies inconsistencies in their logic.

And what inconsistencies would that be? I've given links that prove the statistics. You've given...well, nothing.

The sheriff is right. But I'm betting you probably just chalk his comments up to institutionalized racism.
 
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I imagine the people at abortion clinics are there under their own volition. No one puts a gun to somebody's head and forces them to get an abortion.
On the other hand, when I get stopped by the police, I don't get to decide what kind of officer I have to deal with.... and he always has a gun.

There is no equivalence between the two.

I'm not an idiot. I know that a lot of it is up to me and how I act and obviously, the things I may involve myself in are going to dictate how I feel and act around police. Thankfully, I don't generally get nervous or worry about police because I don't get involved in illegal activities. But I don't like the idea of police thinking they can kill people and not face any kind of penalty for doing so because... hey, it's just part of the job.
No. It's not part of the job to be judge, jury and executioner. The job is to bring criminals to a court of law to be tried by a jury.

I do think the job lends itself to profiling and that's not fair. I wouldn't say police officers are racist but I'm sure it's not hard to find some who are working off of stereotypes and misconceptions. And that could be dangerous not just for Blacks or Hispanics but really anybody who has to deal with the police.
 
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